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#1 Giacomo Girolamo

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 01:17 PM

Hi, I'm going to work in a short film, about a group of blue collar man, train mechanics, that talk around a bonfire in a warehouse, which is a train workshop.

 

I was thinking about the scene, trying to remember scenes from movies or series which a similar aesthetic. What I was thinking, especially with the bonfire, is that the scene could use a little of haze or smog, or mist in the air, which gives more volume to the air around the characters.

 

The only way to do this is with an smog machine, or do you know another method? The idea is that another lights in the warehouse (the motivation is working lights, lights from the train, lights from the ceiling) could gain a little bit of volume, and in that way, give the scene more layers, besides the talents talking each other.

 

If you have more information about how achieve this, or if you have some references from movies, or series, with similar aesthetic, I'll be grateful.

 

 

 

Thank you all!

 

 


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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 01:23 PM

If it's a big warehouse, you'd need a big hazer or a couple in each corner, etc.  I wouldn't try any non-traditional ways of smoking up a room because most of those tricks are not safe to breathe.


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#3 Giacomo Girolamo

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 01:42 PM

If it's a big warehouse, you'd need a big hazer or a couple in each corner, etc.  I wouldn't try any non-traditional ways of smoking up a room because most of those tricks are not safe to breathe.

 

Thanks for the advice David!

The hazer machines are easy to use, or besides the renting, you need to get some kind of technician that work with it all the time?

 

We are an small crew (12 technicians between camera, sound, assistant, etc) and I don't think we can spare someone to be with the machines all the time.

 

 

Thank you!


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Posted 14 January 2019 - 02:02 PM

Depends on how drafty the space is after the initial haze but likely youll have to pump some in regularly between takes, so someone has to be in charge of that.
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#5 Giacomo Girolamo

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 03:32 PM

Thank you David, for sharing your time and information!

 

I'll share some productions pictures and the final result when it's done!


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#6 Omkar Bandiwadekar

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:19 PM

You can use Loban(frankincense its called as per google)..Here its an industry standard,it gives out a bit thicker smoke compared to haze machine,Its safe to breathe..Its cheap.

You can even put some in the bonfire if need be.


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:18 AM

https://www.youtube....h?v=Y8FydpK1Tsw

 

Here is a video I stumbled onto a couple weeks ago, I thought it was a pretty, cheap and portable.. and safe (not tested-trusting video) alternative to pump haze into remote locations.
 


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:06 AM

https://www.youtube....h?v=Y8FydpK1Tsw

 

Here is a video I stumbled onto a couple weeks ago, I thought it was a pretty, cheap and portable.. and safe (not tested-trusting video) alternative to pump haze into remote locations.
 

We used insect foggers on a show in Belize a few years back. Vey effective for getting that misty jungle look. I would not recommend using them indoors, even with the mineral oil used in the video. It looks to be the same sort of heavy oil that was used in cracked oil hazers, which are now banned on sets.


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#9 Giacomo Girolamo

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:55 AM

At the end, the producer don't want the fog for budget reasons, but we have a really nice shooting.

We have some problems with the schedule, mostly because was bad planning, but I hope the director has the shots he needs.

 

I share the short when it's finish.


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