Jump to content


Photo

Zeiss Kinamo film feeding problem


  • Please log in to reply
4 replies to this topic

#1 Juha Mattila

Juha Mattila
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 35 posts
  • Other
  • Finland

Posted 13 December 2016 - 08:29 AM

Geetings all,

I just bought Zeiss Kinamo 35mm camera. I love it but I have hard time to rolling the film to mag and when I finally get it done film feeds very poorly. Without cover mag works fine. I think I need to roll the film precisely even that it wont touch the cover. Even then Im not sure that it wont touch the cover.

I loaded mag without cover in darkroom to my camera (it was not easy!) and it works now, but I wonder if anybody have any tips for how to load mag way I could use the cover on it. Any advise would appreciated!


  • 0

#2 Doug Palmer

Doug Palmer
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 232 posts
  • Camera Operator

Posted 13 December 2016 - 12:37 PM

Does the spring motor have enough power to deal with any friction at the edges ?  On mine the mag works OK, but the motor only runs for about 10 seconds !


  • 0

#3 Juha Mattila

Juha Mattila
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 35 posts
  • Other
  • Finland

Posted 13 December 2016 - 02:54 PM

Hi Dough and thank you for your reply.

It's not that there is not enough power in spring motor because when I put the cover on the mag and run the camera it eats first loop and film gets jammed. Friction is just too much for the sprocket teethes and pressing shoe. When I pull the film from fully closed mag I can feel it is too heavy. I don't see any dents or nothing on the magus. I have two and both have same problem.

I hope it would have daylight spool system. I Even stated to think if I could modified it and make some 25m spools, but I don't want to mess this beautiful historical camera.

Shooting without mag cover wouldn't be so bad but loading the film in darkness is so hard. Actually what I did is that I put the cover on the mag lightly and then opener the door just a little to see just enough to load the film.


  • 0

#4 Dom Jaeger

Dom Jaeger
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1315 posts
  • Other
  • Melbourne, Australia

Posted 13 December 2016 - 07:08 PM

Hi Juha,

 

so the problem is the feed side gets hard to pass the film through when the mag lid is on?

 

Are you loading the film on a core of some kind? Could it be sitting high and getting pressed by the lid? If the mag is feeding without friction when the lid is off, the lid must be pressing somewhere, you need to try and work out where. If not the core/spindle, maybe the throat?


  • 0

#5 Juha Mattila

Juha Mattila
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 35 posts
  • Other
  • Finland

Posted 14 December 2016 - 04:10 PM

Hi Dom,

I didn't use any core. I spooled the film around stick close to same size that is in mag and then just slide the film off and put in the mag. Now I feel pretty stupid because I did try it again with spoiled film and I press it 100% flat and it worked fine. When I spooled film in dark I couldn't make the film roll flat enough. I will try harder next time.

Maybe I should make some kind of jig for my film rewinds…

I would be curious to know do you spool your films for Kinamo?

Sorry Doug for misspelling your name!


  • 0


Aerial Filmworks

CineTape

ZoomCrane

Quantum Music Works

Abel Cine

Metropolis Post

Visual Products

FJS International, LLC

rebotnix Technologies

Tai Audio

The Slider

Pro 8mm

CineLab

Rig Wheels Passport

Willys Widgets

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Glidecam

Ritter Battery

Zylight

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

Technodolly

Paralinx LLC

Rig Wheels Passport

CineTape

Abel Cine

Tai Audio

Pro 8mm

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Zylight

Glidecam

CineLab

Visual Products

Quantum Music Works

Metropolis Post

Technodolly

Aerial Filmworks

Paralinx LLC

Willys Widgets

ZoomCrane

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

rebotnix Technologies

FJS International, LLC

Ritter Battery

The Slider