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#1 Avery Grade

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 08:30 AM

So I really just cant catch a break when it comes to super 8 cameras, I have a Canon 814xls that i got off of Ebay non working, and I got it working perfectly by cleaning the dc jack contacts. However it sounded like a cement grinder at high speed so I had to take it apart and get to the mechanism. I eventually got to it and lubed it and put it back together and nothing, nada, kaput. and I know I put all of the connections in the right place. So the one thing I have not done is to check if i'm getting voltage, I kinda had to step away from it for the night in fear that I would in my sleep deprived state break it more. However I did check current from the battery to see if it was taking current, not even a uA was being taken from the battery. I tried to battery check and it did not work either. So I am kinda at a loss here, if anyone has a 814 xls  and is willing to take it apart and compare wiring or even better a service manual that has wiring diagrams. It would be of great help. I will get pictures on here when i get home from school, the only pictures I have right now are my wiring reference pictures on my phone.

 

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Posted 28 March 2018 - 07:12 AM

Spectra Film and Video may have experience with repairing these cameras.  Wasn't it difficult to take apart the camera? I recall visiting with a technician who explained that there are dozens of soldier points that have to be unsoldered to get the camera open so one can analyze the circuit board and such.


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Posted 28 March 2018 - 08:15 AM

Spectra Film and Video may have experience with repairing these cameras.  Wasn't it difficult to take apart the camera? I recall visiting with a technician who explained that there are dozens of soldier points that have to be unsoldered to get the camera open so one can analyze the circuit board and such. 

It was very difficult to take apart and put back together, however I have many years of experience taking things apart like this (high quality photos is a must), but I failed to mention that the camera stopped working like it was getting no power, maybe 10min before i started taking everything apart, i had the handle hanging loose while i was working on it and it stopped working, I suspect it might be a broken wire in the handle but i cant be sure. I might have to ask spectra if they have seen anything like this before, or just send it in to get it repaired, however I want to avoid the cost of that, Don't have that kind of money for a camera i'm not going to use often.


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 01:46 PM

It's all about perspective.  That camera cost around 800.00 back in the mid 80's, adjusted for inflation today that Canon Camera would be worth 3,500 dollars.  So you if you bought it for 500 bucks, spending 300 to 350 dollars to fix might not be that bad of an investment. 

 

Plus, once it is repaired by an actual Super-8 vendor, it pretty much means if you were to sell it, you may get serious buyers because you actually have proof you had work done on the camera.

 

You may also advise Spectra that down the road you might want to put it on sale and perhaps Spectra gets a call from someone looking for that camera. Just trying to give you some additional ideas on why it may be worth paying someone who can possibly fix the camera.


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 10:30 PM

Forgot to post, It ended up working perfectly after i jumped the dc power jack! The power runs though the jack to keep it from "charging" the batteries when its plugged in. After I lubed it it sounds so much better, I wish I had a before shot of the camera, it kinda sounded like this, https://youtu.be/t3V_lIT7I9k?t=35s, and it now sounds like this https://youtu.be/BnvhfZ4nuIw, I have film in it and i did not want to run it for long but you get the point, it sounds sooooo much better. only thing that doesn't work is the light on the front, the wires broke off of it, I did not think it was necessary to solder them back on for the stuff ill use the camera for.  even if the camera did not work I wouldn't be really peeved, i paid $40 for it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/273074398095. Thanks for the advice on spectra, I was tempted to call them but ended up not needing to.


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#6 Nick Collingwood

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 01:04 AM

even if the camera did not work I wouldn't be really peeved, i paid $40 for it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/273074398095.

 

Ha that's great! that's almost the exact same price I got my 814XL-S for! $35+15 shipping. Dead. BUT I cleaned out the corroded battery jammed in the handle and bought a new battery compartment cap since it was missing and she's been great ever since! $80 all in. Such a steal and SUCH a sharp camera. I probably would've snagged that one you bought if I had seen it haha.


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Posted 07 April 2018 - 03:49 AM

Great to see some cameras coming back on line without too much expense or pain. I imagine a few hundred spent giving them a good service would be a good idea, but I reckon spending that money on shooting film is a better idea.
People love watching YouTube clips of recent super8 being shot, people aren't as excitable about service receipts.

Edited by Gareth Blackstock, 07 April 2018 - 03:50 AM.

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