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#1 Sabyasachi Patra

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 02:04 AM

Sharing a short review of Canon C300 Mark II based on my experiences in the field

 

It contains some wildlife footage, slow motion and low light. 

 


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#2 Samuel Berger

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 12:32 PM

After looking at Vimeo and checking out the different tests, I really love the way the footage looks from this, but I think it and the Ursa Mini Pro are comparable and the Mini is half the price.

Also the C300 doesn't seem to output 6G SDI for live switchers.


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#3 Samuel Berger

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 06:39 PM

How would you protect your highlights in a situation like this?

 

 

This footage from Pro-Creative is amazing, It's almost like Super 16, except for the highlights.

 

I'm so dying to get my hands on one.


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#4 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 07:22 PM

How would you protect your highlights in a situation like this?

 

This footage from Pro-Creative is amazing, It's almost like Super 16, except for the highlights.

 

I'm so dying to get my hands on one.

There's only one way to protect your highlights, and that's to underexpose, and then bring up your shadows and midtones in post. That can cause problems with noise becoming visible, so the greater dynamic range the camera has, the less you need to underexpose, and the easier the whole process becomes.


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#5 Samuel Berger

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 07:49 PM

There's only one way to protect your highlights, and that's to underexpose, and then bring up your shadows and midtones in post. That can cause problems with noise becoming visible, so the greater dynamic range the camera has, the less you need to underexpose, and the easier the whole process becomes.

 

Thank you, Stuart. The C300 Mark II seems to have acceptable DR. They market it has having 15 stops but reviews show it's more like 12 stops.

 

I honestly don't know why it's image looks so much better than other cameras in the same sensor category, but it's about the only time I've ever looked at digital footage and thought I wanted it.

 

Do you have any opinions on PL vs EF?


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#6 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 08:24 PM

Canon cameras do look nice, but it's very hard to say whether this clip looks good because of the camera, or the grade.

 

PL vs EF. PL mount glass is expensive, and no other mount really adapts to it easily. EF mount offers you a huge range of glass, but it's mostly going to be autofocus/auto aperture lenses that don't offer much control. Canon FD lenses are manual lenses, but perversely, don't adapt to EF mount without an optical adapter. You might want to look at Nikon mount, as there is a huge amount of old stills glass available. When I lived in the UK, I used to know a few of the natural history cameramen at the BBC, and they all used Nikon glass because it was high quality, and readily available.


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#7 Samuel Berger

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 08:46 PM

I like the idea of Nikon mounts. I see on B&H that RedRock Micro makes a Nikon to EF adapter.

 

https://www.bhphotov...n_to_canon.html

 

I imagine that using this adapter wouldn't be problematic on a C300 Mark II in EF mount. As far as I know, that is.

 

However, the C300-2 doesn't come with a native Nikon mount option.

 

The Canon FD lenses aren't bad, I have a friend who uses them on his Red Scarlet with very good results. I realise I would have to use some kind of speed booster but would that really be a bad thing?

 

Thanks again.


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#8 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 09:11 PM

I have quite a few Nikon Lenses (e series mostly) which I've used on numerous EF mount cameras, even Alexa and Reds (generally when I'm using my Macro Nikon; or when we need something super light). I'm much a fan of their look, personally but Nikon the EF is a pretty easy adapter, and you can get them cheaply if you're just going with "dumb" lenses. I think mine cost around $11 each (Fotonix if memory serves?) and they basically live on the lenses.


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Posted 31 December 2017 - 09:33 PM

I have quite a few Nikon Lenses (e series mostly) which I've used on numerous EF mount cameras, even Alexa and Reds (generally when I'm using my Macro Nikon; or when we need something super light). I'm much a fan of their look, personally but Nikon the EF is a pretty easy adapter, and you can get them cheaply if you're just going with "dumb" lenses. I think mine cost around $11 each (Fotonix if memory serves?) and they basically live on the lenses.

 

Pardon, was this a typo? Thank you.


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#10 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 10:37 PM

Yes; should read. I'm quite a fan of their look (Nikon E Series) and it's easy to use a Nikon to EF Adapter .


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:02 AM

The Canon FD lenses aren't bad, I have a friend who uses them on his Red Scarlet with very good results. I realise I would have to use some kind of speed booster but would that really be a bad thing?

 

The Canon FD lenses are great. The only reason they aren't more popular is that you can't use them on Canon EF cameras without an optical adapter. They adapt really well for other mounts, but other cameras have their own lenses...


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#12 Samuel Berger

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:40 AM

Canon cameras do look nice, but it's very hard to say whether this clip looks good because of the camera, or the grade.

 

I thought I'd come back to this comment, I read on the Vimeo page how the DP shot that horse sequence. He shot out of the box in CLog2 cinema gamma. Graded in premiere using the lumetri color filter with the Alexa LUT.l as a starting point, because he didn't know how to install Canon LUTs.

 

Pretty amazing for someone new to the camera. The only thing I didn't like was that he kept using rack focus and so much of each shot was out of focus.


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 02:06 AM

Shooting well makes a heck of a difference. I'm having trouble seeing any difference between the C300 Mark II and this beautifully shot bumper, done with an Ursa Mini 4.6K.

 


Edited by Samuel Berger, 02 January 2018 - 02:06 AM.

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#14 Samuel Berger

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 02:25 AM

Er....

 

Apparently the Ursa Mini Pro now has an optional Nikon F mount! Not an adapter but an actual mount! Wow!!!!

 

Ohhh and they've released their own SSD recorder which is $200 less than the Atoch C2S!

 

I guess I'll go for the UMP, then.


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#15 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 05:38 PM

Go with an EF mount though. It opens up the ability to use cine-optics on the cheap if/when needed and make the camera more rentable if others in your area want to use it (and you choose to make side income renting it out)


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:23 PM

Shooting well makes a heck of a difference. I'm having trouble seeing any difference between the C300 Mark II and this beautifully shot bumper, done with an Ursa Mini 4.6K.


There is little to no difference between the two imagers. However, I believe blackmagic used the Alexa as their base color science template.
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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:15 AM

Er....

 

Apparently the Ursa Mini Pro now has an optional Nikon F mount! Not an adapter but an actual mount! Wow!!!!

 

Ohhh and they've released their own SSD recorder which is $200 less than the Atoch C2S!

 

I guess I'll go for the UMP, then.

 

 

Just checking.. AFAIK  know Nikon lenses focus the wrong way.. !! Alert 


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#18 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:17 AM

It's not so much the "wrong" way as the opposite way as other lenses; and for that there are numerous Follow Focus's with reversing gears, or you know,  you can adapt pretty quickly to the "opposite" throw.


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#19 Robin R Probyn

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 03:03 AM

Well its the opposite of every single other major lens manufacturer ..  so unless you have only ever user Nikon .. then they are the wrong way round.. ..  actually why did they do that.. by mistake or just wanting to be different ..


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 07:29 AM

Stillsman here.
Nikon just always have made lenses you turn right to infinity. They've just had their centenary- it's just the way they decided to go a long time ago. Maybe there was an engineering reason originally, or a Japanese cultural one- Pentax also go that way. It's an interesting debate.

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