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#21 Matthew Buick

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 04:09 PM

Naturally I hope your prediction comes true. But this is the movie business :(

R,


If there are 1,000,000 teenagers out there as passionate as me about this film then I think you needn't worry. :P
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#22 Richard Boddington

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 06:53 PM

The trailer looks more like a DP trailer then something to get me into the theaters. Pretty images but not much plot, terror, or action. Also reusing the same image makes for a dull trailer. Repetitive use of the woman testifying, cell walls, and medical instruments makes it look like there isn't too much more to your film. The visuals of the werewolf and demon characters are too clearly defined making them look fake. I'd distress these images and make them less identifiable. Just imply their presence in the film even if that isn't the case in the real film. Also the performances you chose were primarily exposition of the plot. I'd try to find moments of more intense emotion. It needs a faster pace.



Yeah, uh, thanks for your support. I think?

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#23 Alex Ellerman

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 11:38 PM

I liked the way you edited the trailer, the bookend with the matches, and the excitement you built with the titles and funkied up images... i didn't love the actors... the title is B-movie, i would reconsider. the trailer is a little confusing in that it has: supernatural horror, film noir, mystery elements, so it's kind of an odd mix. i wanted to get a better feeling for the movie, aside from the visuals and sounds which seemed pretty good. best, ae
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#24 Richard Boddington

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 12:37 AM

"supernatural horror, film noir, mystery elements, so it's kind of an odd mix."

Yep!! It's all that and more!

I'm thinking of promoting it as a romantic comedy as well :D

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#25 Mark Williams

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 03:13 AM

Ok forum buddies,

I have a new trailer for my feature Dark Reprieve:

http://homepage.mac....Theater110.html

I think it's much better than the first one some of you saw. This is still cut from my FCP time line and mixed in FCP.

You wanted more female bling ya got it! You wanted more scary stuff, ya got it!!

Any whoo, give this a try and let me know your thoughts if you're so inclined.

Crank those speakers.

R,


The trailer was impressive. The colours were fine The match in the beginning was reminiscent to the start of mission impossible any more colour added to this would make it more so. You seemed to have some fine actors although a weakness was the Girls speech

Girl
Your the best at what you do
Man
Depends on who you ask
Girl
the guys you put away

Her tone was exactly the same on both lines both lines having the inflection go up on the last words and sound the same. She could have said your the best at what you do with "so" in front and with sarcasm so making the next line easier.

Everything else seemed fine even though I could spot Pinhead, Tyranasaurus rex, X files, Influences. Which really today can't be helped. It looks like a lot of fun and well made. The Music was powerful and the editing was of a professional standard. Of course a Trailer doesn't mean much and can hide an awful lot. So Can't comment on the film at all except I hope you do well!
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#26 Richard Boddington

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 09:50 AM

Thanks Mark. As for:

"Her tone was exactly the same on both lines both lines having the inflection go up on the last words and sound the same."

She's a former Deal Or No Deal model, this is her first acting job. I hired her based on her other "abilities" than dramatic acting :D

For what it's worth, I coached and rehearsed her for several weeks before shooting. I video taped all of her performances and we analyzed each one. The improvements she made from the start to the final scene where really incredible.

Of course I know this means nothing to the end viewer, they either like the performance or they don't.

As for the other actors...they all worked well for me, for this genre, and budget level, they punched above their weight class. That's the most I could ask.

Lines that didn't work out, got the axe.

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#27 Carl Brighton

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 05:42 AM

Ok forum buddies,

I have a new trailer for my feature Dark Reprieve:

http://homepage.mac....Theater110.html

I think it's much better than the first one some of you saw. This is still cut from my FCP time line and mixed in FCP.

You wanted more female bling ya got it! You wanted more scary stuff, ya got it!!

Any whoo, give this a try and let me know your thoughts if you're so inclined.

Crank those speakers.

R,

I only just got the download to work. After a windows Auto Update, hmmm.... Well anyway, now it's great.

The trailer looks good. I mean we don't really know what the film is about, but it gets your attention. Of course the 35mm film capture is superb, but you do realize that if you'd only had a RED, for the same money, crew, time and resources, you could have had the whole feature shot, edited and showing in theatres by now :rolleyes:

As for getting your photogenic lassie to speak proper, one trick that often works is to get her to breathe right out before speaking, so she's only got enough air to say the line. It really does make them sound more interesting. Or you can get someone to massage their feet while they're speaking. No I'm not kidding, it works. You want them to sound frightened? Sit them on a bag of ice!

I have a bit of a problem with this scene, because until I paused the frame and examined it, it wasn't really clear that it wasn't meant to be the wolf. (Of course, I'm only looking at a small picture)
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It looks too fake for my liking. You might like to try shooting it from odd angles, or reflecting it from a distorting surface to disguise its deficiencies. One good trick is to shoot it in extreme closeup with a cheap black and white video door minder camera with very wide-angle lens, and film off the monitor screen. You can even run the video through a VCR and feed it to a TV set via an antenna lead. By fiddling with the antenna cable you can make the picture drop in and out or go snowy, which enhances the fear factor.
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#28 Carl Brighton

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 05:55 AM

Oh hang on, you've actually finished the shooting? OK, bit late now I suppose :rolleyes:
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#29 Richard Boddington

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 11:01 AM

"I have a bit of a problem with this scene, because until I paused the frame and examined it, it wasn't really clear that it wasn't meant to be the wolf. (Of course, I'm only looking at a small picture)"

That's odd....I've litterally had a dozen people watch that scene and say "wow that looks real!"

Oh well I was bound to run into some one who used the "fake" word at some stage :D

Of course you're a film guy, off the street viewers watch with different eyes and ears.

No it's not the wolf of course, there are multiple terrors lurking in the prison, the trailer shows a few of them. You should see the scene with Dick Cheney!

"As for getting your photogenic lassie to speak proper, one trick that often works is to get her to breathe right out before speaking, so she's only got enough air to say the line. It really does make them sound more interesting. Or you can get someone to massage their feet while they're speaking. No I'm not kidding, it works. You want them to sound frightened? Sit them on a bag of ice!"

All good suggestions, all months too late :D

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 03:05 PM

"I have a bit of a problem with this scene, because until I paused the frame and examined it, it wasn't really clear that it wasn't meant to be the wolf. (Of course, I'm only looking at a small picture)"

That's odd....I've litterally had a dozen people watch that scene and say "wow that looks real!"

Oh well I was bound to run into some one who used the "fake" word at some stage :D

Of course you're a film guy, off the street viewers watch with different eyes and ears.

No it's not the wolf of course, there are multiple terrors lurking in the prison, the trailer shows a few of them. You should see the scene with Dick Cheney!

"As for getting your photogenic lassie to speak proper, one trick that often works is to get her to breathe right out before speaking, so she's only got enough air to say the line. It really does make them sound more interesting. Or you can get someone to massage their feet while they're speaking. No I'm not kidding, it works. You want them to sound frightened? Sit them on a bag of ice!"

All good suggestions, all months too late :D

R,

I thought it was a great monster really ugly and nasty looking I think as monsters go it was excellent.

Some great tips from carl for others too! Notes being taken.
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#31 Bruce Taylor

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 08:27 PM

Huh! I just got around to looking at your trailer, Richard. Loved it. Gosh, some pretty tough critics here! It looks like a lot of fun- it doesn't look like you're trying to shoot Lawrence of Arabia. I really couldn't get the criticisms- this is a "B" scary pic, right? So have fun already!

Good luck, it should do great with your target audience.

-Bruce
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#32 Richard Boddington

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:31 PM

Huh! I just got around to looking at your trailer, Richard. Loved it. Gosh, some pretty tough critics here! It looks like a lot of fun- it doesn't look like you're trying to shoot Lawrence of Arabia. I really couldn't get the criticisms- this is a "B" scary pic, right? So have fun already!

Good luck, it should do great with your target audience.

-Bruce


Yeah you nailed it Bruce, straight to DVD, thrill a minute screw with your head rental. That's all.

The criticisms here have not been too bad at all, I appreciate all the feedback. There are many valid points that I accept. All filmmakers must go through this process.

BTW, I will be sending screeners in two months to a select group of forum members. You just earned a spot on the list Bruce!! I'll PM you for your address as we get closer :D

Thanks
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#33 Carl Brighton

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 05:06 AM

Some great tips from carl for others too! Notes being taken.


Talent wrangling is a bit of a specialty of mine I must admit, even though it's not really my job!

Maybe there should be a sub-forum created here specifically for nifty tricks that people have picked up over the years. I don't to start another argument with the disciples of a certain HD camera, but this very accumulation of years of figuring out time and money saving tricks, or learning them from other people, is what really keeps you employed. Producers like to surround themselves with people who they know all have own own little bag of tricks, because chances are that much greater that one of them is going to be able to quickly solve some unforseen problem, or at least know somebody who might be able to help.

I guess that's something a lot of newcomers don't really understand; within reason the producer doesn't really care overmuch how you get the job done, as long as you do. You could be a brainiac who really does know everything, or just a cute little social butterfly who knows the right numbers to phone :lol:
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#34 Matthew Buick

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 06:54 PM

BTW, I will be sending screeners in two months to a select group of forum members. You just earned a spot on the list Bruce!! I'll PM you for your address as we get closer :D


And may I, Matthew Buick, add how thoroughly impressed I am with this up and coming box office smash. :lol:

Seriously, though, it's just what I want from a horror. I think it has inspired me to direct a horror film of my own.

Can't wait. :)
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#35 Brad Grimmett

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 08:34 PM

It's a bit late for this critique, but I didn't like the headroom on the medium shots of the girl and the detective. I just generally dislike medium shots that give actors a haircut. Although this was a bit more than a haircut. At one point her eyebrows almost leave the top of frame. More headroom was needed in my opinion.
Other than that I thought it was good.
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#36 Richard Boddington

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:02 AM

I've thought about that a few times my self Brad.

Oh well at least none of my test audiences have made any comments on that, DOPs, well I expect to hear that kind of feedback :D

It's not a horror film Matthew......mystery/thriller.

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#37 Brad Grimmett

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 06:11 PM

I've thought about that a few times my self Brad.

Oh well at least none of my test audiences have made any comments on that, DOPs, well I expect to hear that kind of feedback :D

R,

Yeah, I don't think most people are bothered by headroom issues very much, including many folks in the camera department. It's just a particular pet peeve of mine.
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#38 Matthew Buick

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 07:19 PM

It's not a horror film Matthew......mystery/thriller.


Either way, it's inspired me to make a horror film. :P

There was a shot about mid way through of a girl sitting in a chair talking. I personally felt it looked a little like an interview, rather bland.

When will the premiere be?
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#39 Richard Boddington

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:17 PM

There was a shot about mid way through of a girl sitting in a chair talking. I personally felt it looked a little like an interview, rather bland.


Pitty....you where this close to getting a free copy.

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#40 Stephen Williams

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 02:37 AM

I've thought about that a few times my self Brad.


R,


Hi Richard,

As you shot 4 perf 35, you could retransfer those scenes to HDCAM SR.

Stephen
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