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#1 Mathew Collins

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 03:26 AM

Hi,

 

Any inputs on the film stocks used in 'Born On The Fourth Of July'.

 

Specially the stocks used in WAR scenes? Any special chemical processing is done?

All the scene looks highly warm.

 

Hollywood movies normally follow a 'greenish' tint for WAR scenes.

 

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Mathew Collins


Edited by Mathew Collins, 22 July 2016 - 03:31 AM.

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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 11:12 AM

Robert Richardson had said that the warm tone for some scenes in "Platoon" were done in printing so I suspect the same thing happened in this movie for day exterior work.  

 

There is a February 1980 article on "Born on the Fourth of July" -- in terms of the warmth in the Vietnam scenes, he doesn't mention any filtering. It does say that in the second Vietnam sequence, there is a harsh yellow tone "some of which was achieved in timing" -- which implies some of it wasn't, so maybe that means some filtering.

 

He did mention in the AC article that one night scene on a college campus was shot on 250D 5297 stock so that the background tungsten lighting would render very warm -- foreground faces were lit with daylight units.

 

The article says that the stocks were 125T 5247, 250D 5297, and 500T 5295, all rated slower. One late shot in production used the new EXR 50D stock.  Another magazine (maybe ICG) mentioned something that the AC article doesn't, which is that the opening childhood scenes and parade were shot on Fuji 64D stock, along with smoke, floating pollen, etc. (much of the scene though is a dupe because there are titles running through it so it's hard to judge the stock.)  Though this movie was made before Richardson got into ProMist filters, the opening scene to me has some halation from a filter, looks almost like a Double Fog or LowCon.


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 12:07 PM

Thank you David. As always I admire your knowledge.

 

In many scenes, there are overblown, soft edged windows.

 

How does that look achieved?

by using diffusion filters on the front/back side of the window glass(plain glass may be) or rating the stocks slower?


Edited by Mathew Collins, 22 July 2016 - 12:14 PM.

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