Jump to content



Photo

'2 plus'

ac lens stops aperture

  • Please log in to reply
9 replies to this topic

#1 Benjamin Leggett

Benjamin Leggett

    New

  • Basic Members
  • Pip
  • 4 posts
  • 2nd Assistant Camera
  • London

Posted 30 March 2018 - 04:46 AM

Hi,

 

I'm Ben, a learning camera assistant who chose not to study film and is now catching up on production etiquette and techniques!

I recently pulled focus on a short film for a great DoP (Tansy Simpson) here in London and at one point she asked me to push the iris to a 'two plus'

 

Now i assumed this meant something like a t2.1, or did it mean 2.5? I'd love to get clarification on this as I was too worried she might think I was an amateur if i asked!

 

Thanks in advance for any help offered,

 

Benjamin

 

  • 0

#2 Mark Dunn

Mark Dunn
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2832 posts
  • Other
  • London

Posted 30 March 2018 - 04:50 AM

Why didn't you ask, what did you actually do, and what makes you think she doesn't read this forum anyway?

  • 0

#3 Phil Rhodes

Phil Rhodes
  • Sustaining Members
  • 12338 posts
  • Other

Posted 30 March 2018 - 04:56 AM

I've never heard that one either, though I don't believe I've ever specifically been paid as a camera assistant. I'd have asked.


  • 0

#4 Benjamin Leggett

Benjamin Leggett

    New

  • Basic Members
  • Pip
  • 4 posts
  • 2nd Assistant Camera
  • London

Posted 30 March 2018 - 04:58 AM

It was a very low budget, tightly scheduled shoot and the DoP who is also my friend was worrying about a lot of things as a result of shortcomings in other departments. Adding another worry ("My 1ac doesn't know basic set lingo") to her list didn't really appeal. I was confident that putting the iris between 2 and a 2.8 would give her the stop she wanted, but I'd like clarification. I'd actually be comfortable asking her now the shoot is over! But she's in LA, and I wanted to try this forum... which I would not be surprised she used herself! (Busted?)


  • 0

#5 Adrian Sierkowski

Adrian Sierkowski
  • Sustaining Members
  • 7502 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Los Angeles, Ca

Posted 30 March 2018 - 09:02 AM

You can e mail her, but it almost sounds like "2 and a Bump" which when I say it I typically mean 2 and 1/3rd, Else I'd say "A bump under 2.8," e.g. 2 and 2/3rds.

Nest time just ask. You'll look far more foolish by not asking. I don't think any DoP would or should chew your head off for not understanding something right away since everyone I know tends to have their own "isms," (Adrianisms in my case) which their regulars are adapted to but to which new and day-players aren't.


  • 0

#6 Benjamin Leggett

Benjamin Leggett

    New

  • Basic Members
  • Pip
  • 4 posts
  • 2nd Assistant Camera
  • London

Posted 30 March 2018 - 10:53 AM

Thank you  for your answer Adrian, I think that makes sense. I'll check with her anyway. 


  • 0

#7 Gregory Irwin

Gregory Irwin
  • Sustaining Members
  • 628 posts
  • 1st Assistant Camera
  • Work is based in Los Angeles but I live elsewhere.

Posted 31 March 2018 - 11:22 AM

Hey there. There is no shame asking these questions. Im a 38 year veteran First AC and I would have asked exactly what she meant by a 2 plus. Im guessing she meant a line closed from a T2 but every DP has their way of saying things. Its always better too clarify rather than committing a bigger mistake.

G
  • 1

#8 Stuart Brereton

Stuart Brereton
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 3432 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Los Angeles

Posted 01 April 2018 - 03:51 PM

I've heard 2 plus before. It means a line closed on t2, or 2 and a bump, as some people say. It's always good to check with the DP what they mean. There's a big difference between "2 plus" and t2.8


  • 0

#9 Chris Steel

Chris Steel
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • 1st Assistant Camera
  • London

Posted 01 April 2018 - 07:10 PM

The one that gets me is "2.8 Minus half" - doesn't compute in my head as they wanted T2 and a half.

Only heard it once so can't call it popular. I had to ask what they wanted a few times on that one as I just didn't understand it.

 

I occasionally hear Plus and Minus a bump but mostly it's "and a quarter/third/half"

 

If I hear a term I haven't heard before, I'll ask what they mean. There are so many localisations and variations you can't possibly know it all right from the get go


  • 0

#10 Robin R Probyn

Robin R Probyn
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2453 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Tokyo

Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:05 AM

It used to be a gnats.. open or closed in the UK..  I,ll bet that confused alot of our cousins from a cress the pond..


  • 0



Rig Wheels Passport

FJS International, LLC

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Ritter Battery

Glidecam

Abel Cine

Wooden Camera

Paralinx LLC

Visual Products

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Metropolis Post

New Pro Video - New and Used Equipment

CineLab

Tai Audio

New Pro Video - New and Used Equipment

Abel Cine

Metropolis Post

Ritter Battery

Paralinx LLC

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Glidecam

Wooden Camera

Rig Wheels Passport

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

CineLab

FJS International, LLC

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

Visual Products

Tai Audio