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#1 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 12:27 PM

Just saw the trailer before "King Kong".

Whereas with "Collateral", because it is almost entirely set at night, the majority of the movie was shot on HD, with "Miami Vice", it looks like HD is just reserved for the low-light night exteriors, so at least in the trailers, these really stick out. All those shots look gain-boosted with the shutter turned off or below 1/48th, so there is a smear to the motion too.

Now I know that Michael Mann is more interested in discovering an HD aesthetic than fooling anyone, but in this case, at least in the trailer, it seems more at odds with the hyper-slick 35mm commercial photography during the day shots, compared to "Collateral" which had more of a unified look.
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#2 Steven C. Boone

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 12:51 PM

Just saw the trailer before "King Kong".

Whereas with "Collateral", because it is almost entirely set at night, the majority of the movie was shot on HD, with "Miami Vice", it looks like HD is just reserved for the low-light night exteriors, so at least in the trailers, these really stick out. All those shots look gain-boosted with the shutter turned off or below 1/48th, so there is a smear to the motion too.

Now I know that Michael Mann is more interested in discovering an HD aesthetic than fooling anyone, but in this case, at least in the trailer, it seems more at odds with the hyper-slick 35mm commercial photography during the day shots, compared to "Collateral" which had more of a unified look.


Agreed. To each his own, but if there isn't a thematic/dramatic motivation for this contrast, the average viewer will just subliminally think "they went cheap."
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#3 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 02:46 PM

Agreed. To each his own, but if there isn't a thematic/dramatic motivation for this contrast, the average viewer will just subliminally think "they went cheap."


It's hard to say that out of context -- in the case of "Collateral" the boosted HD look gave the nighttime scenes a certain "electronic" mood, maybe the night scenes in "Miami Vice" will also give you a new look at city night exterior photography, at least, in terms of the Miami locations. Perhaps in the feature, you get long stretches of HD, rather than in a trailer where shots are juxtaposed and the difference is more obvious.
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#4 Arni Heimir

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 05:15 PM

Has anyone seen the MI3 trailer? Isn't it mix between anamorphic (e. Bridge) and HD (e. China)? That reminds me, is it possible to add a blue flare alá panavision on spherical lenses? I know that Vantage has a filter for that effect but the blue isn't at par with the panavision signature artifact.
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 03:59 AM

Perhaps in the feature, you get long stretches of HD, rather than in a trailer where shots are juxtaposed and the difference is more obvious.


I found this really annoying in the trailer as well... But i didn't know they were shooting film as well. It will be really interesting to see how he does decide to cut the film and HD together.
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