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#1 Tim Myers

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 07:33 PM

I've been looking at the 1014 xls and salivating for a couple weeks now. But I don't understand the microphone. If super 8 doesn't have sound, why have a mic on the camera? I have no idea what's going on here. I'm confused.
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#2 Ian Marks

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 07:43 PM

This camera was produced back when Kodak was producing Super-8 film cartridges with a sound stripe. Sound was recorded on a magnetic sound stripe alongside the image, and could be played back on projectors equipped with a magnetic sound pickup, amplifier and speaker. Kodak discontinued the "sound" film years ago. Thus, this *was* a "sound" camera when the Super-8 format was at its zenith; now it's just a very good silent camera.
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#3 Tim Myers

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 08:02 PM

Do you know if it's quieter than the Canon 1014 Electronic? If not, why is the XLS so much more money?
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#4 Mike Crane

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 08:12 PM

In fact, many people claim that the 1014 XL-S is a good camera to use for sync sound. The accurate electronics and motor drive will maintain sync for a good minute. Spectra specializes in rebuilding these cameras as well as others they have for sale on their site. You may want to contact them to ask specific questions you have concerning camera features. They are very helpful - even if you are buying the camera elsewhere. www.spectrafilmandvideo.com

Edited by Mike Crane, 15 December 2005 - 08:14 PM.

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#5 Tim Myers

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 08:18 PM

Thank you, interesting website. I'm jiveing with the 1014 electronic a little more though due to the smaller price tag. Is it significantly noisier? If so I may have to swallow my pride and get the xls.
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#6 Rick Palidwor

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 03:19 AM

Likely to be noisier. All sound cameras tend to run quieter. What's the price? That would affect my advice on that particular 1014 XLS. (I have the 814)
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#7 A.Oliver

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 11:11 AM

Hi, canon 1014xls dates from 1979-83, more modern optics/electronics than the 1014e. Think the 1014e dates from 1973ish to 78ish. Canon 1014xls is easier to hand hold imo. I would go for the 1014xls.
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#8 Anthony Schilling

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 04:47 PM

The 1014E has a louder and higher pitch noise. the 814xls is always around $100-$200 cheaper than the 1014xls, with only 20mm less zoom and no in camera dissolves. sometimes sellers picture the mic mounted to make it look cool.

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#9 A.Oliver

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 05:21 PM

yeh, don't overlook the 814xls, only major spec missing is the lap dissolve. If you are finding it hard to stretch to the 1014xls price tag, go for the 814xls. In fact, why not opt for the 814xls??????
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#10 Tim Myers

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 06:33 PM

"Canon 1014xls is easier to hand hold imo. I would go for the 1014xls."

But isn't the xls bigger? One of the main reasons I've been staying away from the xls is because it looks bulkier. The 1014 electronic looks much more mobile, lighter, and easier to hand hold. Anybody else think the xls is easier?

And as far as quality goes, which one will give me prettier movies?
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#11 Tim Myers

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 06:45 PM

And everyone keeps reminding me that the 814 isn't all that bad either. Is it as mobile as the 1014 electronic? I'd really like to walk around with this camera all day with as much convenience and as little hassle as possible. Thanks for all the help!
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#12 Matt Pacini

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 02:32 PM

I love the 1014XL-S, but it's a noisy beast.
I'ts not big at all, and is really comfortable to shoot with.
The only quiet Super 8 camera, is the Nizo 6080 or 4080.

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 04:23 PM

just ordered a 6080 off german ebay: $250 with shipping...can't wait!
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Posted 20 December 2005 - 05:12 PM

just ordered a 6080 off german ebay: $250 with shipping...can't wait!
jk

Not wishing to dampen your spirits, i just hope that horrible drive belt within the camera is in good condition.
Make sure your claw works ok on receipt of the camera.
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#15 Jason Maeda

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 10:50 AM

what kind of tests should i perform upon receipt?
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Posted 22 December 2005 - 11:23 AM

what kind of tests should i perform upon receipt?
jk :ph34r:

Hi, apart from the usual iris check etc, make absolute sure the claw is operational, make sure the claw moves up and down. I think the thing that turns the centre of the cartridge within the camera still works ok, despite the claw not working, but i cant quite remember. Get a test film thru the camera asap. The only downside to these great cameras, infact all the braun 4080,4056,6080 etc series of camera is a stupid drive belt within the camera that stretches over time, causing the claw to stop working. Its a pig to replace btw.
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#17 Jason Maeda

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 04:05 PM

do you know of any repair shops that offer a belt replacement for the 6080?

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