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#1 seth christian

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 02:06 AM

I've purchased my Bolex Reflex, and I need to order film quick for this
project, ....but since most of the places to get film are only selling
single perf....will it be a problem to run S16 film in this camera?

Anything to be mindful of if I do this?

Please help so I know if I should order super film or not.
thanks



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#2 Stephen Williams

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 05:03 AM

I've purchased my Bolex Reflex, and I need to order film quick for this
project, ....but since most of the places to get film are only selling
single perf....will it be a problem to run S16 film in this camera?

Anything to be mindful of if I do this?

Please help so I know if I should order super film or not.
thanks
p.s- thank you everyone for all your forum help, links and stories! I've
learned a MULTITUDE of knowledge in only a few weeks.



Hi,

Look at the sprockets inside the camera. Most bolex's will run single perf, however there are a few that require double perf film.

Stephen
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#3 Trevor Greenfield

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 09:54 AM

I've purchased my Bolex Reflex, and I need to order film quick for this
project, ....but since most of the places to get film are only selling
single perf....will it be a problem to run S16 film in this camera?

Anything to be mindful of if I do this?

Please help so I know if I should order super film or not.
thanks
p.s- thank you everyone for all your forum help, links and stories! I've
learned a MULTITUDE of knowledge in only a few weeks.



Just as an aside, I think you should look into a few filmmaking books. You could buy a book on filmmaking, screenwriting and cinematography for less than $30 in a used book store. That $30 will be the best investment of your career.
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#4 Boris Belay

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 10:21 AM

All Bolex H16 since the mid-50's accept BOTH single and double perf film. Obviously, if you want to shoot S-16, you need single-perf...
But I'm confused about what camera you bought : the (not-yet-over) eBay auction you refer to in another thread is not a Reflex model (and not the best camera to shoot with for that price). Have you bought two cameras ?
And I do agree with Trevor : don't rush into this. Get more info from here and elsewhere, make sure you ask (yourself) the right questions about the filming you want to do and the gear necessary, and only then scout for the right camera !
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#5 Clive Tobin

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 01:01 PM

I've purchased my Bolex Reflex...will it be a problem to run S16 film in this camera?


All Bolex Reflex cameras will shoot either single or double perf film.

Older models will shoot either one if the serial number is above 76471. Below this they require double perf unless they have been modified to remove one row of teeth from both sprockets. You should not use these older cameras below serial 100401 if you want a rock-steady picture, as that is when they started using the so-called Registration Claw instead of the cam-driven claw, with a narrower film channel suited to the then-new low shrinkage film stock, to prevent weave.

I have this information and lots more on the Identifying Your Bolex articles and following pages of pictures on my website at http://www.tobincine...om/page100.html
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#6 seth christian

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 06:50 PM

no, I cancelled a bid on a camera.

now I'm lookin into this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...bayphotohosting



what a ya think?
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#7 Boris Belay

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 08:32 PM

Too expensive. The Rex-5 with 13x. viewfinders are very rare and cost too much compared to the regular models (10x. Viewfinder), at least for a first camera.
The Rex-5 is a good model because of the possibility to add the 120m. magazine if you need longer shooting, but you shouldn't pay much more than $600-800 for a basic kit off eBay, in my opinion. (From a shop with an overhaul and a warranty, it would be a different story, of course... Do you know of shops doing 16mm. cameras in your area?)
For the same $800, you might also be able to find an EBM kit with a Kern zoom or some fixed focal lenses. If you don't mind the batteries and cables, an electric H16 may be a good choice for you.
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