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#1 freddie bonfanti

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 04:26 AM

hi,

i was wondering which film stocks are often used for music videos, for both 35 mil and super 16 formats. i always notice very crisp and thin images so i wonder if there are "preferable" stocks that do the job better. i understand sometimes dps choose other stocks to get a particular look, but usually images are crisp and well defined...

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#2 John Pytlak RIP

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 09:49 PM

hi,

i was wondering which film stocks are often used for music videos, for both 35 mil and super 16 formats. i always notice very crisp and thin images so i wonder if there are "preferable" stocks that do the job better. i understand sometimes dps choose other stocks to get a particular look, but usually images are crisp and well defined...

thank you all

federico bonfanti


As with any project, it really depends on the "look" you want. In general, smaller formats have more graininess and less sharpness. Faster films have more graininess. Kodak offers a variety of films for a variety of "looks", e.g., the Kodak VISION2 Expression 500T Color Negative Film offers lower contrast and saturation. Certainly, you also can choose B&W negative or B&W reversal, or color reversal film, which offer additional options.

Some music videos:

http://www.samburbank.com/Stompy.htm

http://dpduraid.blog...ning-video.html

http://dpduraid.blogspot.com/

http://crimsonchainp...ns.com/faq.html

Compare films:

http://www.kodak.com...omparison.jhtml

The "Imaging Chain":

http://www.kodak.com...ainDetect.shtml
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#3 Eric Steelberg ASC

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 10:16 PM

I recently did a video for a group called DEEP DISH which was shot on Super16. We used the new 200T and I was floored by the results. John and his buddies in Rochester know what DPs want. I even used it for the night exteriors though I was shooting at T1.4. You can see the video here:
go to www.oilfactory.com
click on 'music video' directors at left
choose 'rainbows and vampires'
choose 'Deep Dish-Sacramento'

I also did a video on 35mm using the 500 Expression. Shot it with uncoated lenses from Panavision to give it a very optically soft look with a bunch of glare. In telecine we added a bunch of contrast back into it, resulting in a soft picture with high contrast. Some stills below:


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Posted 20 December 2005 - 06:45 AM

cheers john and eric,

helpful and sharp as usual

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 09:37 AM

Beautiful stills, Eric, I especially like the 4th and 5th images, I'm looking forwards to checking out the MV as well.

Eric, did the 7217 seem a lot finer grained than 7218? Everybody seems to be using '18 these days.
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#6 Eric Steelberg ASC

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 12:12 PM

The 17 is much finer grainer than the 18. I've used the 18 in 16mm only a few times with very pleasing results but the video was way low budget and having one film stock eliminated having leftover film. It's a good way to make producers happy.

I shoot a lot of 18 in 35mm but in 16mm for day ext. sometimes extreme highlights can start to get a bit noisy in telecine.
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