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#1 Sivanesan

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 04:55 PM

Hi all,
I am about to shoot a short using dvx-100A. Its a PAL Camera. Can i record a portion of one scene in 25fps and another portion in 24fps in the same tape. If possible, how will my edit system will handel those 2 different shots of 25fps and 24fps. I use FCP (Pro).
Also where is the 24p setting located in the camera....... i was unable to find that...... hv just tested one day.

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#2 Luke Prendergast

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 05:44 PM

The PAL version has 25p instead of 24p, not in addition.
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#3 Will Novy

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:46 AM

The PAL version has 25p instead of 24p, not in addition.

As for the 24p setting on the 100A, there is no such setting. Only the 100b has that and it is on the round dial that says f5.
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#4 Tim J Durham

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 08:05 AM

As for the 24p setting on the 100A, there is no such setting. Only the 100b has that and it is on the round dial that says f5.

You are mistaken.
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Posted 30 January 2006 - 09:25 AM

You are mistaken.

i doubt so. My friend owns both the 100a and 100b. The 100b was released specifically for the 24p setting, which is why he bought the 100b.
I could be wrong, but im about 90 % sure about that
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#6 Scott Fritzshall

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 09:27 AM

i doubt so. My friend owns both the 100a and 100b. The 100b was released specifically for the 24p setting, which is why he bought the 100b.
I could be wrong, but im about 90 % sure about that

The ability to do 24p in-camera was one of the main selling points of the DVX100. In fact I shot some 24p stuff on a friend's 100a a few months ago.

Edited by Scott Fritzshall, 30 January 2006 - 09:27 AM.

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#7 Chien Huey

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 09:34 AM

From Panasonic's website, scroll down to the "DV Cinema" heading.

http://www.panasonic...ideo/app_dv.asp
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#8 Steven C. Boone

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 09:50 AM

i doubt so. My friend owns both the 100a and 100b. The 100b was released specifically for the 24p setting, which is why he bought the 100b.
I could be wrong, but im about 90 % sure about that


Your friend should get rid of this anomalous 100a, then, since it has no 24p. I'll give you an address where he can send it (my house).
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#9 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 11:54 AM

The "B" version was created to meet EU no-lead laws mainly, from what I heard.

The NTSC version does 24P, 30P, and 60i. The PAL version does 25P and 50i. There's no real reason to do 24P instead of 25P if it's going to be stored as 50i on the tape anyway.
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#10 Michael Collier

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 06:56 PM

The DVX-100 included true 24p scan chip, which was then put through a pulldown to NTSC 29.97.

The DVX-100A included 24p Advanced, as well as the previous pulldown method was included. In the Advanced mode the 24frames are recorded, but instead of a pulldown frames are just duplicated, making it easier to handle in post if you want to get down to the original 24 frames.

I have no idea what the 100B model brings, those are just things I know from experience with both the 100 and 100A on long feature length projects.
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#11 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:24 PM

The DVX-100 included true 24p scan chip, which was then put through a pulldown to NTSC 29.97.

The DVX-100A included 24p Advanced, as well as the previous pulldown method was included. In the Advanced mode the 24frames are recorded, but instead of a pulldown frames are just duplicated, making it easier to handle in post if you want to get down to the original 24 frames.

I have no idea what the 100B model brings, those are just things I know from experience with both the 100 and 100A on long feature length projects.


I think the debate is whether the 50i PAL version of the DVX100A or B offers 24P, not just 25P and 50i.
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#12 Daniel Sheehy

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 02:26 AM

I think the debate is whether the 50i PAL version of the DVX100A or B offers 24P, not just 25P and 50i.


This write up on B&H would seem to indicate that the 100BE (the most recent PAL model) supports 25P, 24P (2:3:3:2 pull-down) 30P and 50i.

http://www.bhphotovi...list&sku=410501

I am not sure about the older models (100AE & 100E)
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