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#1 Rene Brar

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 02:48 PM

I'm on the hunt for a good telecine house in Los Angeles for my 7222.

I have 2 questions concerning this:

a) Are there specific telecine systems that are better suited for b&w work as opposed to color?
B) Can anyone recommend a place in or near Los Angeles?

Thank you in advance for you input.

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 01:35 PM

So, I assume that there are no special considerations if I'm telecineing B&W?

Anyone?

Thanks.
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Posted 30 January 2006 - 01:47 PM

Just remember that silver grains scatter light more than dyes do. So the specularity of the illumination system and sensor system in the telecine will have an effect on the perceived contrast, and on the appearance of the grain. In other words, a modern telecine with diffuse illumination like the Spirit Datacine will be different than an old Rank Cintel.
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Posted 30 January 2006 - 02:16 PM

John,

Thank you very much for your reply, but allow me to ask for a further simplification: what qualitative difference can one expect to see between a Spirit Datacine or an old Rank Cintel?

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#5 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 02:50 PM

Spirit transfers of 16mm tend to look less grainy than flying spot scanners like a Rank because of the diffused light source for the film.
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Posted 30 January 2006 - 03:01 PM

Ahhh... I see. Thanks for the help!

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 09:00 PM

I just got a pretty good quote on a C-Reality.

How would you say this machines does with b&w 16mm? As well as the Spirit?
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Posted 30 January 2006 - 09:05 PM

I just got a pretty good quote on a C-Reality.

How would you say this machines does with b&w 16mm? As well as the Spirit?


I'm sure it will look great, just as sharp probably, only that the Spirit transfer tends to look less grainy. Now some people prefer the CRT look of the C-Reality and other Ranks compared to a CCD transfer like on a Spirit, but that's a matter of taste.
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Posted 30 January 2006 - 09:47 PM

I just got a pretty good quote on a C-Reality.

How would you say this machines does with b&w 16mm? As well as the Spirit?


Have them show you other transfers they've done from B&W 16mm. If you like the "look", go for it.
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