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#1 Jonathan Bryant

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 05:55 AM

If doing low budget photography for something that would only get distributed to TV or DVD would you choose 16mm or 720p? And why?
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#2 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 06:43 AM

Hi,

Depends. Varicams are rare and expensive; HVX-200s are somewhat cheaper, but still somewhat rare. As far as I know, they and the JVC GY-HD100 are the only 720p24 cameras out there. I like the HD100, but I haven't shot anything serious with it.

Personally I'd stick with the video, but there's obviously one major reason to do that. If you happen to have a lot of money...

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 06:51 AM

I like the HD100, but I haven't shot anything serious with it.

So you have a HD100? Whats your opinion as of yet on that camera?
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Posted 07 February 2006 - 07:37 AM

So you have a HD100? Whats your opinion as of yet on that camera?




I am not sure if you can deliver a 720p master for broadcast. Anybody else know? If not, you would have to up res to 1080, which would yield a slight hit in quality. Why not Super 16 and master to 1080? I am not sure how long your piece will be, but 16 may well be cheaper than HD. Better look as well. My two cents.

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 09:47 AM

It partly depends on the equipment and facilities available to you and the anticipated length of your project. If 16mm camera rental + film purchase/process + telecine is cheaper than HD camera rental + whatever post, film origination is a cost-effective choice.

One of the advantages of originating in film is that the negative can be transferred into any of a number of formats: up-rezzed 16 to 35, SD, HD, or whatever future video format comes along. If your project has historical importance (meaning somebody many years from now may want to see it) you have certain future-proofing and archival advantages available to you with film origination. Of course if you're shooting a mattress commercial for this weekend's sale, video is the obvious choice. The application decides the appropriate format.

Edited by Robert Hughes, 07 February 2006 - 09:53 AM.

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#6 Jonathan Bryant

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Posted 08 February 2006 - 02:56 AM

How many clients demand 16 over 720p? Are the latitude advantage, and other quality advantages over 720p enough to justify the higher cost in your opinion?
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