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#1 Peter Emery

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 07:24 AM

I'm shooting some 16mm B&W inserts for a documentary set in WWII. I am trying to achieve that silvery/silky look that you sometimes see in old photographs. Any ideas anyone?
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#2 Mikael Lemercier

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 03:48 PM

hi Peter,
old style:you can reach the silver look by using b&w filters, with just 3 of them, for exemple dark yellow(15) with tungsten lights interior, green(11) outside with nature landscape and yellow green(13) with urban shoot....

more ideas for test.
http://www.schneider.../black_&_white/
http://www.tiffen.co...t=Larger Format

or digital way by color neg over exposed, desatured colors...

Inspired by the russian film, I use b&w negative film, filter, and I play with lights (the sun, color temperature of lamps)and jelly.

kindest regards.
Mikael.
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#3 Peter Emery

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 06:59 PM

Thanks Mikael,

I'll give that a try. I wanted to use Ilford?s motion picture version of their stills stocks which looks stunning but it has been discontinued two years ago. Fuji also has at least one stock available but are reluctant to import it from Japan. That just leaves Kodak Plus X as I find the double X too grainy. Shame.

I've always wanted to try shooting specialist 'title' stocks or one that is designed for sound striping for prints. Never dared! I guess they would just be extremely contrasty.

Peter
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#4 Filip Plesha

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 07:25 PM

Thanks Mikael,

I'll give that a try. I wanted to use Ilford?s motion picture version of their stills stocks which looks stunning but it has been discontinued two years ago. Fuji also has at least one stock available but are reluctant to import it from Japan. That just leaves Kodak Plus X as I find the double X too grainy. Shame.

I've always wanted to try shooting specialist 'title' stocks or one that is designed for sound striping for prints. Never dared! I guess they would just be extremely contrasty.

Peter



Not that I'm braging about Croatian BW films, but I think Efke is the only contemorary way to
get the vintage BW look, since they are the only ones that still make BW film with tons of silver, and all the other disadvantages (or advantages) of 50 year old technology. Efke films have not been changed since 50's at all. Good old German BW from 50's.
Of course there is no way of getting that to a motion picture version.

Compared to modern BW films, I think Efke has a rather smooth but somehow "fatt" look, that just looks vintage at first sight. Something you couldn't mistake for a desaturated color film.

But for that high quality fine art BW look, I'd always go for Ilford
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#5 Steven Budden

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 08:41 PM

What about Fomapan? That is the look it is well known for and it is relatively inexpensive.

Steven

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What about Fomapan? That is the look it is well known for and it is relatively inexpensive.

Steven
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Oh but it's reversal.

Steven
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