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1st feature film, low budget HD, mostly exteriors: which camera set up?


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#1 Jamesy

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 03:00 PM

We want to shoot on HD, outside (think adventure in the mountains), onto a hard drive, with a powerful G5 back at HQ for dailies/rough edit etc, with the image as 'beautiful' as possible, lots of wide angle lenses, DOF. Maneuverabilty and flexibilty essential, really experimenting with angles and loads of takes.

I'd love to hear any opinion on which cameras might be best suited to the task.

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 03:01 PM

Budget?
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 03:06 PM

Budget?



Under 500k US... :blink:
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 04:42 PM

how much (ballpark) is your camera/shooting budget, and your post budget, and how long is your shooting schedule?
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 05:40 PM

I have not shot with a F900 or any high end HD gear but it is large and heavy. I am looking seriously at the Canon XL-h1. You have lens options and you can get 4:2:2 out of SDI record through a capture card or HD deck and have the color info. If you use the Canon or Sony and shoot on mini-dv, the hd is compressed but tapes are cheap. I would do all experimenting with angles and loads of takes, on a mini dv or consumer camcorder. That way you can test shoots and get a detailed shoot list before you bring in the expensive gear.
I have assisted on Film shoots and there is not much trial and error, the DP has a plan and sticks to it
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Posted 23 February 2006 - 06:00 PM

Remote Exterior with a budget of near 500k to me says "Shoot on 35mm" instead of HD. I'm all for shooting things on HD, but film has certain advantaged areas and you're jumping right into two of them. 1. Remote 2. Exterior
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#7 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 06:09 PM

I have not shot with a F900 or any high end HD gear but it is large and heavy. I am looking seriously at the Canon XL-h1. You have lens options and you can get 4:2:2 out of SDI record through a capture card or HD deck and have the color info. If you use the Canon or Sony and shoot on mini-dv, the hd is compressed but tapes are cheap. I would do all experimenting with angles and loads of takes, on a mini dv or consumer camcorder. That way you can test shoots and get a detailed shoot list before you bring in the expensive gear.
I have assisted on Film shoots and there is not much trial and error, the DP has a plan and sticks to it


Hi,
Depends what you mean by heavy! I would consider an Arri BL heavy, an F900 is very light compared to any film camera even the lighter ones used for handheld a lot. I did a whole short handheld with the F900 and it was not a problem at all (I even had a pro-35 on it w/Primes so it was heavier than usual).
The XLH1 is not all it's cracked up to be by certain people on this forum! I used one recently and thought that 24F mode is definately inferior in look to true 24p (XL2 for example). The XLH1 does have quite extensive image manipulation menus in-camera which is always a big plus for me, it's just a shame it isn't 24p because to me I could tell the difference and didn't like it.
If your budget is around $500k shoot 35mm, the extra lattitude will be a blessing with lots of exteriors.
Just my opinion.
Cheers.

Edited by Tomas Haas, 23 February 2006 - 06:12 PM.

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#8 Dan Salzmann

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 05:21 AM

I'll second the vote for 35mm film on a project like that. Go for the gusto!
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