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#1 Brian Wells

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 06:49 AM

575W Par with Electronic Ballast is listed for ¥350.00 ($43.00 US). Obviously, this sounds too good to be true. But, what if it IS true? I, for one, would order three of everything they make!

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#2 Adam Frisch FSF

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 07:06 AM

Jeez, I'm getting a 12K as a new reading lamp for £170, easily!
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#3 Bon Sawyer

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 11:05 AM

There's not much info about these products on the web. Anyone used them? Where does one buy them?

The first concern that springs to mind is one of safety. Have these products undergone the same level of safety testing as name-brand products? At such low pricing, I'm thinking maybe not. Or is this fear unfounded?

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Edited by Bon Sawyer, 14 March 2006 - 11:08 AM.

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#4 Adam Frisch FSF

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 04:15 PM

They've not been CE approved for sale and use in Europe, but it's underway and will probably be done before Christmas, according to the manufacturer. I didn't ask about the US certification, unfortunately.
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#5 Michael Collier

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 05:17 PM

43 bucks? I find that really hard to believe. Hell, a tota light from lowell will run you at least 120 bucks without light. Does this 350Y include import to europe or the US? probably not, I would think customs would want at least 43 bucks just to bring it in. (is there a duty free shop for DoPs? Im gonna start one and become rich)


Does anyone know if these are even availible in the US? I would love to add a few cheap HMIs to my set, even if they dont work, for 43 bucks I will take the risk (and test the hell out of them before I put them on a set)

The real question is can anyone see any obvious cost savings availible in building an HMI light? I cant see anything that could be cut from an HMI and still have the thing work and be usefull.
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#6 Mitch Gross

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 06:28 PM

I believe that the $43 is the daily rental rate.
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#7 Brian Wells

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 06:48 PM

The manufacturer emailed me a price list, which I have attached here. In general, they seem to be about 50% less than comparable Arrisun's, but are not UL listed, and there is no US distributor. Truly not worth the effort.

They could be selling these for a lot less, but I guess they're too smart for that. It will be fun when other Chinese manufacturers start making HMI's and the prices come down to a more attractive level. B)

I would think customs would want at least 43 bucks just to bring it in.

Check out the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States. Most categories are much, much less!

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#8 Dino Giammattei

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 08:20 PM

Katey bar the door.

If the Chinese manufacturers get a foothold, look for the American industry to feel some pain.
If these guys can make a $199 condenser microphone. How hard can a light fixture be.
China has the ability to flood the U.S.market with usable tools at pennies on the dollar.
Every small facility and a whole bunch of freelancers would have no choice but to purchase.
Look at companies like Behringer. Everybody badmouths them, but they still sell a lot of stuff.

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#9 Brian Wells

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 08:55 PM

All I can say is it's about time to see some cheap HMI's. Prices have doubled in the last decade, which does not reflect rising costs. It reflects greed. Power to them, but this is a free market economy.
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#10 Bon Sawyer

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 09:47 PM

I believe that the $43 is the daily rental rate.

Heh... I feel dumb for not realising that to begin with. :)

Thanks for the clarification. The actual price list posted above is much more realistic.

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#11 Dan Salzmann

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 11:50 AM

I'd like to see them knocking off follow focus gear. Why not some serious matte boxes?
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#12 Alex Haspel

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:02 AM

funny. design wise they look like straight arri copies.
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#13 Alex Haspel

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 12:18 PM

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#14 Hal Smith

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 02:12 PM

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Standby gang, they're negotiating with a potential USA distributor.

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#15 Dan Salzmann

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 04:25 AM

I'd like to know about the safety issues with these units.
Ballasts have large capacitors in them and I wouldn't like to see anyone get hurt or worse.
At these very cheap prices, what are they skimping on?
With Arri we are of course paying for the name but we are also paying for ENGINEERING.
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Posted 17 March 2006 - 06:36 AM

As a small rental house, I have mixed emotions about these: Love the price, since the units look capable, I am not concerned with their safety, however I don't think I would purchase them right now. I've just bought a couple of Sunrays, and they come with terrific customer service, and, yes, a big "made in America" flag on them. And, as far as HMI's go, they are realatively inexpensive.

If the Chinese units were to catch on at a terribly lower price, I, with so many others, would have no choice but to go with the more competitive option.
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