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#1 Tim Kirk

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 09:40 AM

as a tafe assingment i have chosen to do a documentary on 8mm filming. the theme being is it dead or alive. my research suggests that there is a future for this format. but id like any oppinions you might have about this subject.
also if you have any other information or links to sites that have any history of film information that would be awesome.

cheers a bundle.


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#2 David W Scott

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 09:53 AM

as a tafe assingment i have chosen to do a documentary on 8mm filming. the theme being is it dead or alive. my research suggests that there is a future for this format. but id like any oppinions you might have about this subject.
also if you have any other information or links to sites that have any history of film information that would be awesome.

cheers a bundle.
Tim Kirk



Alive and getting better! :D

The proof?

* Three new stocks from Kodak (including two of their premium negative stocks), with possibly more coming.

* The repatriation of Super 8 manufacturing to Rochester (should be complete by the end of the year).

* Two new magazines devoted to Super 8 ("Super 8 Today" and "Smallformat")

* Super 8 short film selected for Cannes ("The Man Who Met Himself")

For more links and info, go to www.filmshooting.com and check out the forums.

All the best,

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 10:01 AM

as a tafe assingment i have chosen to do a documentary on 8mm filming. the theme being is it dead or alive. my research suggests that there is a future for this format. but id like any oppinions you might have about this subject.
also if you have any other information or links to sites that have any history of film information that would be awesome.

cheers a bundle.
Tim Kirk


Kodak certainly still sees a viable business case for Super-8 film production. Otherwise, they wouldn't be investing in moving Super-8 finishing and packaging back to the USA from the Kodak manufacturing facility in Chalon-sur-Saone France.

http://www.kodak.com/go/super8
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#4 Matt Pacini

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 01:56 PM

"Is it dead" and "will it still be used in the future" are two different questions.

It is obviously not dead now.
Who knows if, or when it will be in the future?
Right now though, there is a pretty good user base, as John just stated.
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#5 A.Oliver

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 03:50 PM

just need kodak to bring out a descent kodachrome replacement stock, otherwise the format is dead for me.
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#6 Seth Mondragon

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 04:19 PM

k25rip wrote:

just need kodak to bring out a descent kodachrome replacement stock, otherwise the format is dead for me.

oh brother....people aren't still crying over this crap, are they? here we go again....
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#7 Alessandro Machi

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 04:21 PM

just need kodak to bring out a descent kodachrome replacement stock, otherwise the format is dead for me.


short term, try the fuji velvia. Long term, the 7201 should do the trick.
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Posted 17 March 2006 - 04:56 PM

short term, try the fuji velvia. Long term, the 7201 should do the trick.


He's a projectionist, Alex. That's his thing. The 7201 negative would do him no good, would it?
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#9 Alessandro Machi

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 05:19 PM

He's a projectionist, Alex. That's his thing. The 7201 negative would do him no good, would it?


A Super-8 Print from the 7201 negative would look fine.

Isn't Velvia a reversal stock? I haven't finished my first cartridge yet but I assumed it was reversal.
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Posted 17 March 2006 - 05:42 PM

A Super-8 Print from the 7201 negative would look fine.

Isn't Velvia a reversal stock? I haven't finished my first cartridge yet but I assumed it was reversal.


You are truly amazing, Alex. I guess these two statements are meant as jokes?
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Posted 17 March 2006 - 06:05 PM

I would lilke to see more Super 8 printing available in the states. I know that digital projection and Super 8 go rather well together. I just think that Super 8 prints could do rather well at festivals, a niche if you would.

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 06:08 PM

I would lilke to see more Super 8 printing available in the states. I know that digital projection and Super 8 go rather well together. I just think that Super 8 prints could do rather well at festivals, a niche if you would.

chris


Which festivals are those? Nobody accepts super 8 prints at any real festivals, and they never will.
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Posted 17 March 2006 - 06:41 PM

as a tafe assingment i have chosen to do a documentary on 8mm filming. the theme being is it dead or alive. my research suggests that there is a future for this format. but id like any oppinions you might have about this subject.
also if you have any other information or links to sites that have any history of film information that would be awesome.

cheers a bundle.
Tim Kirk


Super 8 has literally leaped out of the tomb and, like Christopher Lee in the Hammer version of THE MUMMY, it is marching ahead and destroying all doubters in its path. It was recently seen dancing on the stages of Cannes and Sundance this past year, and on the awards podium as the filmmaking tool for collecting armfuls of awards for art house filmmakers like Guy Maddin. Meanwhile, a dozen pro grade telecine shops have sprung up to support it, 3 or 4 places load their own super 8 cartridges and are small time manufactures of the format, and its inventor, Kodak, realizes there's a good decade plus of life in "the little format that could" and is investing money in new manufacturing equipment for it and believes in its future as John points out.

Most of this has to to with the fact that pro-grade telecine to professional video formats are now readily available unlike only a few years ago, and modern negative filmstocks introduced in the past two years or so that enable serious super 8 filmmaking, ensures more and more of it will be seen as a stupendous short filmmaking origination medium.

In short, anybody who tells you super 8 has an uncertain future and they'd never invest in equipment or take it seriously, has their head up their ass.
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#14 Alessandro Machi

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 07:13 PM

You are truly amazing, Alex. I guess these two statements are meant as jokes?


No and No.
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Posted 17 March 2006 - 07:33 PM

Which festivals are those? Nobody accepts super 8 prints at any real festivals, and they never will.


A short list off the top of my head:
The $100 Film Festival in Calgary (film only, either 16 or s8).
Images Festival in Toronto has a few all super 8 (print) nights.
Splice This! in Toronto, though they will accept video as well.
The Super 8 Circus in Toronto, all super 8 film prints, and nothing but.

I know Santo is going to say these aren't "real" festivals, but who listens to Santo? Anyone?

People need to know there are opportunities to show super 8 prints, and more than I have outlined here. On Global Super 8 day there are dozens of screenings around the world showing super 8 prints, including here in Toronto at the National Film Board Mediatheque.

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 07:46 PM

I know Santo is going to say these aren't "real" festivals, but who listens to Santo? Anyone?


Anybody who can deal with reality, truth, and facts -- and a cold bucket of water on their head to wake them up?
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Posted 17 March 2006 - 07:48 PM

and a cold bucket of water on their head to wake them up?


Are you saying that someone needs a cold bucket of water on them before they can listen to you?
You're crazier than I thought.

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#18 Tim Halloran

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 10:18 PM

Who listens to Santo? Anyone?


No.

"(He) sweats to death, and lards the lean earth as he walks along.
Were't not for laughing, I should pity him." Henry IV

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#19 Rick Palidwor

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 10:53 PM

as a tafe assingment i have chosen to do a documentary on 8mm filming. the theme being is it dead or alive. my research suggests that there is a future for this format. but id like any oppinions you might have about this subject.
also if you have any other information or links to sites that have any history of film information that would be awesome.

cheers a bundle.
Tim Kirk


Tim
Check out www.friendlyfirefilms.ca
It has information about a feature I made on super 8.

A good website is www.onsuper8.org.

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#20 Tim Kirk

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 09:36 AM

cheers guys thats awesome. stunned that it took only three posts to change the subject but it got back.
thanks again but some of you i wanted your oppnions not for you to argue amongst your selves.

what about in australia? any thing happening there?
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