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#1 jbraver

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 11:32 PM

Very intersting article about "24" and HDV

I am curious to know what you all think.

http://www.showreel....article.php?172



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#2 Michael Most

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 12:03 PM

Very intersting article about "24" and HDV

I am curious to know what you all think.

http://www.showreel....article.php?172
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There's little to think about. Despite the bravado of the article, the end result is that it's not being used. 24 is still shot on film. Other than describing some tests - that frankly, are no different than a million other tests - the conclusion was that HDV - and HD, for that matter - doesn't hold up under the production conditions of the show. Is that "very interesting?"
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#3 Bob Hayes

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 01:52 AM

I watch ?24? on Comcast and boy does it look awful. It looks like it is shot on Beta cam and movement is sort of blurry like a video camera with a slow shutter speed. I?m sure the show doesn?t look like this. It?s just my cable. I would have put money that it was shot on HD. Does anyone know what might cause this effect?
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#4 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 05:26 AM

Too much MPEG compression? Bad MPEG decoder, too much noise reduction at some stage?
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#5 Mitch Gross

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 10:01 PM

I'll bet that you have digital cable. Worse yet is if you run the signal through a TiVo, DVD recorder or some other box that re-encodes the signal with MPEG compression. I have ten channels of HBO, Cinemax & Showtime, and while the flagship channels look great, some of the secondary ones are obviously alotted little bandwidth either on the satellite uplink or within the cable system and it really shows. Anytime there's a night scene or anything with low contrast, the image looks rather "impressionistic" and feels like it's in slow motion. Seriously annoying.
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