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#1 Vedran Rupich

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 02:19 PM

I have a load of 7245 that I intend to use in a music video.
I know that this is a slow daylight stock, but I'm gonna shot som interior with it..
so I'll need a filter that will steal even more light, how much light will i need?
what kind of setup is desired? I'm gonna use smoke to make the lights volumetrics, but not
in huge amounts.
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#2 Laurent Andrieux

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 02:33 PM

You'd need a full CTB on tungsten sources, cutting off two stops (light devided by four) or a 80 A filter on the camera (cutting 2 stops as well), that is a big loss... Can you light with daylight sources ? (HMI) If it's a day scene and you have natural daylight coming in, it then can be a good choice.
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#3 Vedran Rupich

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 03:38 PM

I dont think the budget allows for HMI's. lets say i used gels on my tungstens, how large effect are we talking about in order to get a good exposure? there will be medium sized rooms. and lets say i wont combine with any dayligth, if its gonna be completly tungsten...is it possible?

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#4 Laurent Andrieux

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 03:49 PM

It would be a pain then... requires 400 fc for a stop of 4, you would need 5 k and 2 kw sources as a basis considering they will be cut off by the ctb, and the set will be pretty hot as well - I should say as hell !
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Posted 20 April 2006 - 08:45 PM

I dont think the budget allows for HMI's. lets say i used gels on my tungstens, how large effect are we talking about in order to get a good exposure? there will be medium sized rooms. and lets say i wont combine with any dayligth, if its gonna be completly tungsten...is it possible?


I would like to say that you are completely insane but I absolutely love the look of 7245, so I sort of can't disagree with your intention! ;)

But 50ASA!
You could put a filter on the camera but you will lose a lot of light.
One possibility would be perhaps to use daylight balanced flo's? I'm not sure if that would suit the kind of thing you are thinking of doing. A big window might be useful too!

The trouble is that it's going to be really hard to shoot indoors at 50ASA to start with, even with fast lenses and then you are going to cut the light with ctb or something!!! eeeek!

If that wasn't bad enough, theres going to be smoke too! :)

You couldn't set this music video outside it bright sunlight then? ;)

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#6 timHealy

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 09:47 PM

How large is your set? 7245 interior with tungsten plus full blue could mean big lights, heat shield, burnt gels anyway, a lot of electricians, possibly a large tie in or large generator.

All depends on how big your set is.

Might be better to save the 45 for something else. It may not be the right tool for the job.

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#7 Chris Keth

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 10:27 PM

How large is your set? 7245 interior with tungsten plus full blue could mean big lights, heat shield, burnt gels anyway, a lot of electricians, possibly a large tie in or large generator.

All depends on how big your set is.

Might be better to save the 45 for something else. It may not be the right tool for the job.

Best

Tim



If HMIs aren't in the budget, I would probably shoot on something else. Either that, or push the 7245 a stop, shoot with uncorrected tungstens and have the color corrected in transfer.
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#8 Stephen Whitehead

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 11:26 PM

I'm not so sure I would recommend pushing '45 a stop. It doesn't hadle being pushed very well.
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#9 Vedran Rupich

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 03:18 AM

I sure like the look of 7245 but praticalities have killed my vision....
but lets say I`ll use a faster stock for the indoor tungsten scenes to combine with my outdoor
7245 scenes... what indoor stock would i use that is a bit faster, meaning it can be done with tungstens without frying the artists?
But I would still like to be able to match the look with the 7245..
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#10 Laurent Andrieux

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 08:37 AM

Don't worry, any kodak tungsten stock would match the 45, especialy if different scenes and after grading
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