Memoir about Miniatures in movies
Posted 04 May 2006 - 09:05 PM
How are you all?
I just arrived here and this area seems the right (I hope?) place to put this topic.
I'm actually in a movie school in Belgium (IAD) in my final year, and I have to do a memoir (thesis?) about "Miniatures and Forced Perpective in Movies".
I assume some of you did work in the past with miniatures, so I'm trying to collect all (or most of) the info about how what to do if one wants to use/create miniatures for his/her movie.
I'm searching for info about:
- what are the type of lenses adviced to shoot miniatures?
- wide angle versus short angle?
- are there specific camera to shoot miniatures (static, or in motion)
- what type of materials/technics are mostly used or advised for:
* Fire and explosions (reducing oxygen in a transparent tank?)
* smoke, Haze
- Are there specific lightings to use? A specific direction of Photography?
- What diaph is better to use, related to the "focus depth" (is it how you say it in english?)
- is the classical formula for speed always working for very small miniatures (like 1/72? when I tried with the speed given by the formula for that small scale, it seemed twice too slow )
- which kind of angle to use for forced perspective (like hobbits and humans in the same plan, for example... ^^; )
Thaaaaaaaaaaanks a lot in advance
You shall be credited in the memoir (and if you want, I'll send you an issue of it who knows, it might be useful to you too in the end )
Big kiss and a hug
Posted 05 May 2006 - 04:52 AM
Thanks a lot for the books references, mister John Pytlak
It seems the last one would meet many of my questions
Now, I'm wondering also about what any of you did experienced personally (especially since the book is from October 2000 and there may have been new technics, new attempts, etc...
Are there some of you who tried to make make/shoot miniatures and met some problems doing so?
Posted 05 May 2006 - 08:56 AM
Posted 05 May 2006 - 03:57 PM
Posted 05 May 2006 - 06:34 PM
There's still tons of miniture work done on all the big budget movies made today, despite what it many times sounds like.
Kodak Cinesite in the UK does LOTS of minature and model work, in addition to their digital VFX:
The team behind Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire and Charlie & The Chocolate Factory created the stunning and controversial visual effects sequence in V For Vendetta in which The Old Bailey and The Houses of Parliament are realistically blown to pieces, to the accompaniment of the 1812 Overture.
Their work involved weeks of architecture and building research, construction of the massive 30 foot high 10th scale models at Shepperton Studios, model unit photography and compositing of the models into background footage of London. The realistic model and digital effects make the disturbing sequence highly convincing and will leave cinema-goers wondering "How did they do that?"
Cinesite completed key digital sequences, all miniature construction and photography and all the VFX scanning and recording for Warner Bros' Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Based on the classic Roald Dahl novel, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is directed by Tim Burton with Visual Effects Supervision by Nick Davis.