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#1 Stephen Edwards

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 12:18 AM

Hello,
Yes, I have just purchased a Sony DSR-450WS and am very happy with it's image quality!! I shoot corporate and broadcast "cut-ins". Can now fill the demand for that 24p look as well as giving them 16:9 if they so desire. My purchase decisions are driven by what my clients want and as of yet HD is not ready for my money. Granted, I feel that this will be the last SD Camera that I will buy but should bridge the gap for a few years until HD is ready for prime time.
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#2 TVTim

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 12:37 AM

Hey there.

Great to hear. I am pretty much in the same boat and agree with your reasons. Hope you enjoy it as much as I am.

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#3 Stephen Edwards

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 12:51 AM

Thanks Tim,
I got some flak from fellow shooter's about getting an SD camera! But the price was right and I just can't shoot well with a toy like the little Sony Z-1 or Pany 200...
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#4 Laurent Andrieux

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 04:23 AM

A friend of mine just got one in his TV production company and showed it to me a couple of hours ago, looks great. We're thinking of buying ones in the school I teach. Wish there was a digi beta cam in the same range of price... But when you already have DVCAM decks...
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#5 Jac Chesson

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 11:51 AM

Congratulations on your purchase, Stephen! I've had mine for about 6 months now and all my clients are very happy with the image quality.

My main competition, for whom I used to work, uses an F900! Of course, no one here posts in HD and it's all downconverted. I've used both since being out on my own and would compare SD video head to head all the time. Honestly, it's tough to tell the difference and I'm very picky! Especially when you consider the huge price difference.

Anyway, I'm happy to hear we have another in the fold. Congratulations!

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#6 Stephen Edwards

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Posted 20 June 2006 - 08:17 PM

Congratulations on your purchase, Stephen! I've had mine for about 6 months now and all my clients are very happy with the image quality.

My main competition, for whom I used to work, uses an F900! Of course, no one here posts in HD and it's all downconverted. I've used both since being out on my own and would compare SD video head to head all the time. Honestly, it's tough to tell the difference and I'm very picky! Especially when you consider the huge price difference.

Anyway, I'm happy to hear we have another in the fold. Congratulations!

Jac



I have a question about the DSR-450WS; How do you generate a test tone with the color bars? With my D30 you just put both mic inputs to front and run your bars.
It's not in the manual...
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#7 Peter J DeCrescenzo

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Posted 20 June 2006 - 09:39 PM

I have a question about the DSR-450WS; How do you generate a test tone with the color bars? ... It's not in the manual...

The info is "hidden" on page 86:

MAINTENANCE menu, AUDIO, "AU SG (1KHz)".

Set the audio switches to "Front" and then adjust the audio level knobs.
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Posted 20 June 2006 - 09:49 PM

I know it will be atleast another year before Time Warner in cincinnati begins testing HD inserts for commercials...and even after that it will be downconverted. Sounds like a good investment. You don't want to get one of the lower end HD cameras that have SD capability because the quality won't be as good.
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Posted 20 June 2006 - 11:55 PM

The info is "hidden" on page 86:

MAINTENANCE menu, AUDIO, "AU SG (1KHz)".

Set the audio switches to "Front" and then adjust the audio level knobs.



Thanks Peter..your the man! :)
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Posted 22 June 2006 - 08:04 AM

Hello,
Yes, I have just purchased a Sony DSR-450WS and am very happy with it's image quality!! I shoot corporate and broadcast "cut-ins". Can now fill the demand for that 24p look as well as giving them 16:9 if they so desire. My purchase decisions are driven by what my clients want and as of yet HD is not ready for my money. Granted, I feel that this will be the last SD Camera that I will buy but should bridge the gap for a few years until HD is ready for prime time.


Congrats! :D

Can you please tell me what is the major difference with Sony DSR-400PAL of yours one? Price difference is alomost 50% . Your one is 50% premium priced.

I need comments from Sony DSR 400 PAL user also to take my decision to buy one. Whether I should go with 400 or 450.

Thanks for helping me.

Regards.
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#11 Stephen Edwards

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 10:39 AM

Congrats! :D

Can you please tell me what is the major difference with Sony DSR-400PAL of yours one? Price difference is alomost 50% . Your one is 50% premium priced.

I need comments from Sony DSR 400 PAL user also to take my decision to buy one. Whether I should go with 400 or 450.

Thanks for helping me.

Regards.



Hello,
The Sony DSR-450WS gives you 16:9 / 4:3 switchable and 24p...
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#12 Peter J DeCrescenzo

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 11:37 AM

Hello,
The Sony DSR-450WS gives you 16:9 / 4:3 switchable and 24p...

In addition to its native 16:9 (4:3 switchable) capability:

The DSR-450 NTSC version can record 24p, 24pA, 30p, and 60i.

The DSR-450 PAL version can record 25p and 50i.

The DSR-450 has a Slow Shutter feature (NTSC: 1-8 and 16 frames [1/30-1/4 and 1/2 sec.]; PAL: 1-8 and 16 frames [1/25-1/3 and 2/3 sec.]). Slow Shutter is a interlace video feature (not progressive).

The DSR-450 has multiple/selectable gamma curves.

The DSR-450 has a composite video output connector (no on-screen displays/menus/markers), in addition to the "monitor" composite video out connector (with on-screen displays/menus/markers).

The DSR-450 has an option available from Sony for "live" SDI digital video out ("uncompressed" 10-bit 4:2:2) for improved monitoring accuracy or recording to an external device such as a SDI-equipped Panasonic DVCPRO-50 VCR, or a SDI-equipped bonsaiDrive:
http://www.bonsaidrive.com/bonsai.html

The DSR-450 has a 4:3 Aspect Mask VF marker feature not available with the DSR-400.

The DSR-450 has port for connecting an optional Sony wired remote control (RM-B150 or B750).

The DSR-450 has an option available from Sony to allow input and recording of external composite video.

In case you missed it, this info is in the DSR-400/DSR-450 user manual, a copy of which is available in the docs section of cinematography.com
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Posted 03 August 2006 - 06:46 PM

Another DSR-450wsl owner? Well, the time for owners of DSR-450wsl to have a forum is getting closer. I wish.
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#14 Michael McIntyre

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Posted 04 August 2006 - 03:41 AM

Not a 450 owner - just a wannabe owner. Thought I'd chime in on 'bridgin' the gap' before HD takes over and people getting grief for buying SD.

I just confounded several colleagues by snagging a used DXC 537 with a Beta back. I like the notion of shooting on Beta for $1,500. That's almost equal to one 8 gig card for the Panny HVX 200!

Call me cheap but I like to romanticize it as good business. I'll be more than happy to pick up the pieces from someone else's camera package when they feel the need for the next 'best thing'. Picture's great. Audio's still solid. No complaints here.

What caught my eye was this thread. The DSR_WS series looks really interesting. I am jealous. Enjoy your new purchase!

Sounds like most everyone here will be primed and ready when our clients / networks are 'really' ready for HD.
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#15 Simon Wyndham

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 09:42 AM

Well, if someone wants a DSR-450 forum, I've just set one up!
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#16 Jac Chesson

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 02:06 PM

Hey Simon!

Great work! Tell us where we can find it.


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#17 Simon Wyndham

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 03:54 PM

Hi Jac,

I don't want to tread too much on other forum owners toes. http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/phpbb2

I was tempted to call them "Just another load of camera forums"! I hope some people find them useful even though some of the subjects might be similar to other places. I am concious of appearing to compete with others though, when in fact I have no intention of competing with great places like this and DVinfo etc. So I hope the mods won't mind me posting that link.
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#18 Miles Heckendorn

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 04:42 PM

I don't want to tread too much on other forum owners toes. http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/phpbb2


Hi Simon,

I seem to be having trouble getting that link to work. Right now it's taking me to your homepage. Should I be looking for a link there?

Thanks,
Miles
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#19 Simon Wyndham

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 03:17 AM

Hmm Weird. It is linked to from the updates on my homepage. Try this one http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/phpBB2/
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#20 Miles Heckendorn

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 06:40 AM

That did it! Thanks.

Miles
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