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#1 Ckulakov

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Posted 30 July 2006 - 10:48 PM

Could you please list some christian movies, music videos, or short films that where greatly motivated by the cinematography.

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#2 Chris Keth

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Posted 30 July 2006 - 11:06 PM

Could you please list some christian movies, music videos, or short films that where greatly motivated by the cinematography.

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Could you perhaps be more specific as to what you are looking for? Every movie is "greatly motivated by it's cinematography", Christian or not. Even though I hated the movie, The Passion was well shot. I don't really know any other movies that are really considered Christian. There are some with more overt religious themes than others, but I don't go looking for Christian films. Perhaps look for some LDS (Mormon) movies online. I know they have a quite active production company here in Utah making both religious, and "family-friendly secular" films.
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#3 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 12:21 AM

I don't understand what it means to be "motivated by the cinematography" -- cinematography is motivated by the needs of the movie, how can a story be motivated by the cinematography?

Imagine some filmmaker saying "I was motivated by 7218 and Zeiss lenses to tell this story of the Jonah and the Whale..."

I don't know what "Christian cinematography" is either.

I really don't understand the question at all. What does it mean to have a Christian music video motivated by the cinematography? You'd think it would be motivated by Christ...
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#4 David Sweetman

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 01:11 AM

Perhaps you mean "with greatly motivated cinematography?"

Most "Christian" movies are appalingly sub-par...I'm not sure I'd reccomend them for study of cinematography. The only thing that comes to mind other than "The Passion" is the wedding scene in "The Deer Hunter," shot by Vilmos Z. (not even gonna try to spell that one) which has a big catholic chapel, and looks incredible. And, not that it has "greatly motivated cinematography," but you can check out a clip from a "christian music video" on my reel - http://www.sweetmans...tman_06Reel.wmv
... in the end, it's no different than shooting anything else; you shoot what fits, and in the case of Christian material, I guess you look for bright, light-hearted, beautiful kind of stuff. There was also a "drug scene" in that music video, so the beautiful stuff is supposed to be contrasted by the smoky night shots.
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#5 Alex Wuijts

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 06:27 AM

I think he wants examples of cinematography of an outstanding quality in movies, videos or other audiovisual expressions that have obvious christian connotations.

Greatly motivated cinematography wouldn't necessarily be outstanding or distinct, or maybe i'm just adding to the confusion of tongues now.
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#6 Keith Mottram

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 07:31 AM

I'd also be intrested in any examples with strong connections to devil worship and/ or serious demonic possesion....
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 08:33 AM

I'd also be intrested in any examples with strong connections to devil worship and/ or serious demonic possesion....

Hopefully a joke - "Rosemary's Baby", "The Omen" series, and in a lighter vein, "Damn Yankees".
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#8 Paul Wizikowski

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 10:06 AM

Could you please list some christian movies, music videos, or short films that where greatly motivated by the cinematography.

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I'd have to agree with David Sweetman. Most "Christian" films are a joke from top to bottom. Typically they go straight to video and some of the "better" ones (loose term there) can be found in Bible Book Stores. Only a handful can be found in Blockbuster or other video rental houses. The most recent Threatrical release was last years "End of the Spear", shot by Tulsan Bob Driskell. The most notible one is obviously "The Passion".

I'm trying to think of some others....Carman's "The Champion", "Mercy Streets" did okay, and then theres the big video seller "The Left Behind" Series. Oh, its aweful though.

As for music videos check out Switchfoot's "Stars", P.O.D., Reliant K, Dizmas, The Kids in the Way. There isn't much of a market for Christian Music Video's, so unless the band is crossing over into the secular realms most MV's are just on the bands website and so difficult to find unless you know the band first. The one's I've listed were nominated for music videos of the year in the Dove Awards. (Except for POD who just happens to have larger budgets and better videos than most).

Short films are even harder to find. The Damah film festival deals with "Spiritual" Films. So theres a start.
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#9 Tom Bays

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 10:19 AM

The Chronicles of Narnia
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#10 Arni Heimir

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 10:19 AM

There are a ton a secularized christian films out there. Hollywood uses stories from the new and old testament as story and character floor plans for a contemporary setting. Matrix, Superman and many other films use a messiah like character as their lead.

Horror films use Christian dogma as a plot device. So, Christian values are all around Hollywood. Speaking of which, what do you think about Mel Gibson?
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#11 Paul Wizikowski

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 11:17 AM

what do you think about Mel Gibson?


I wonder if he even knows where he stands.
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#12 Scott Lynch

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 11:24 AM

I wonder if he even knows where he stands.



I think he's having a hard time even standing, as of late. :)

-Scott
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#13 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 01:18 PM

The only thing that comes to mind other than "The Passion" is the wedding scene in "The Deer Hunter," shot by Vilmos Z. (not even gonna try to spell that one) which has a big catholic chapel, and looks incredible.


---It's not a 'catholic chapel', it's a Russian Orthodox church.

Christianity is not a monolithic culture. Unitarianism is a Christian sect. And until recently rapture believing
evengelicals did not consider Catholics Christians, but pagan idolators held over from the Roman Empire.
They have toned down on this for political reasons.

Traditional Catholic and Orthodox imagery and music is quite different than traditional Calvinistic imagery, or rather lack of imagery, and music.

Contrast Beethoven's Missa Solemnis with christian rock.

There's a huge range.

'The Counterfiet Traitor' turns out to be an interesting Christian/Catholic movie.
Totally unlike what passes as 'a Christian movie' by today's shallow standards.


---LV

Edited by Leo A Vale, 31 July 2006 - 01:21 PM.

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#14 Brian Wells

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 05:12 PM

I thought The Elms "Nothing To Do With Love" music video was well done for a Christian band.

To see the video, go to the director's website:
www.lukerenner.com

For an article about the production, go here:
http://www.screenmag...e.aspx?fid=1155
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#15 Chris Cooke

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 05:36 PM

Check out the movie called "The Visitation". It's based on the Frank Peretti book. I thought that it had decent cinematography. All of the flashbacks had that "Domino" type cross process look which turned out nicely and the lighting throughout the film from what I can remember was quite moody. If you care to see part of a Christian music video that I shot about 2 years ago, you can click on the following link and then click "The Huron Carol". http://creationarts....screenings.html
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#16 Michael Collier

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 05:52 PM

Speaking of which, what do you think about Mel Gibson?



well considering when he got arrested yesterday (or maybe the day before) for drunk driving he unleashed a fury of anti-semetic comments, I think he is more of a christian poser, and did passion to improve his image (and maybe in his head he though it would gain favor from above?) who knows. I know a godly person doesnt call a sheriff 'sugar-t*ts' and ask if his arresting officer is a jew (after railing on jews before that)


Sorry, slightly OT, but gibson came up just after I saw the news.
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 06:43 PM

How about Tarkovsky's "Andrei Rublev" - in addition to the whole setting of medieval Orthodox monkhood, it's got that Christian versus pagan scene by the river. Of course the demons in that film are all human.

Also Dreyer's "Joan of Arc".

Edited by Robert Hughes, 31 July 2006 - 06:44 PM.

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#18 Stuart McCammon

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 07:48 PM

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Oh, and Mel Gibson just succeeded in proving that he is thoroughly human. He never pretended to be Jesus, he just produced a movie about him - how many other public figures have had the maturity to apologize for an incident like that the next day? Remember the whole Hymietown thing? It took Jesse Jackson a whole month to apologize for that one after denying it at first)
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#19 Michael Collier

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 08:29 PM

Oh, and Mel Gibson just succeeded in proving that he is thoroughly human.


Yeah, I see what your saying and its a fair point. I have been in the news business long enough that I have a bad opinion of those who would drink and drive (especially those who could afford a taxi or limo service). It seems that everytime there is a DD accident, the drunk walks away with a few scratches and the people in the other car are all dead.
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#20 Raffinator

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 12:41 PM

Check out just about any film from Martin Scorsese up to "Last Temptation of Christ"; Catholicism/Christianity penetrates every aspect of his art. He isn't trying to "teach christianity" (if that's what you are after, I don't think it is) rather, it's such a huge part of his life that it finds its way into a lot of his themes, conciously or subconciously. If you look for it, there is a fair amount of Christian iconography in these films, and it seems like every character is searching for redemption, in one way or another.

Scorsese himself has acknowledged the extent of the influence of his Catholicism: "It always will be in every piece, in every work I do, even in the way I act."

I love the cinematography in the first three:

The Last Temptation of Christ
Taxi Driver
Raging Bull

Mean Streets
Boxcar Bertha


"You don't make up for your sins in Church; you do it in the streets; you do it at home. The rest is bullshit, and you know it." -Charlie, Mean Streets
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