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#1 Jimmy Ren

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 03:38 PM

Hey guys. Can you load a 400' magazine (ACL and NPR) with 100' or 200' film? or must it be 400'? and here's another dumb one: what is a daylight spool? Would that not fit in my magazine? thanks!
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#2 Dan Horstman

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 05:09 PM

Hey guys. Can you load a 400' magazine (ACL and NPR) with 100' or 200' film? or must it be 400'? and here's another dumb one: what is a daylight spool? Would that not fit in my magazine? thanks!


A daylight spool is a black metal spool that blocks light from exposing the film. The idea is that you can load these in the light without exposing the film. It is better to load in subdued light (ie Not In Broad Daylight) or a Dark Bag or changing tent if you can, because some light will fog the edges of the film and sometimes it will creep into the picture. This is usally only a problem at the head and tails of the film.

Not sure on the NPR. But the ACL you can remove the core flanges and use daylight spools. If the film is core wound then it doesn't matter if it is 100 feet 200 feet or 400 feet. The one thing about the 200 foot rolls is don't order the A-Minima 200 foot rolls if you don't have an A-Minima. They are specially designed to work with the A-Minima and have a different kind of daylight spool. Also the film is in the A Wind position and you want B wind for the ACL or NPR...which is the standard wind for camera films.
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#3 Thibaut de Chemellier

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 06:29 PM

The Eclair NPR can take daylight spools no problem.
You just have to remove the feed-core of the magazine.
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#4 Charles MacDonald

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 09:47 PM

If the film is core wound then it doesn't matter if it is 100 feet 200 feet or 400 feet.

Generaly if you buy "short ends" they are what is left from a larger roll, and so they could be anything from 400 ft on down to (less than ) 100 ft. - 100 ft (or less) rolls are often respooled on daylight spools as that is the only format that FIlmos and Bolex are normaly happy wih.

Only Gotcha to watch is a short end over 300 ft that was originaly part of a 1200 ft load - those come from the factory on larger cores. If the deler does not re-spool then on the smaller cores thay can end up Bigger in diameter than a fresh 400 ft load. Most short end folks will catch that edge case however.

If you get a 200 ft end, it is just like of you took the shot film out out of the mag and stuck a new takeup core in for the afternoon. Only wory is keeping track of what you have left.
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#5 Lav Bodnaruk

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Posted 07 August 2006 - 10:47 PM

man you got some sweet answers here, i read your question and wanted to help answer, but pretty much all has been said already. :D good luck hunting down those short ends.
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