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#1 John Adolfi

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 12:00 PM

Would someone sharte with us the cheapest solutions for a pin registered 26mm camera. Also mention the need for it? Like the Canon Scoopic does not have a pin but I understand the lense is fantastic. Would not having a pin in this camera alter ones decission in purchasing a camera that could produce a great picture?
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#2 Stephen Williams

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 12:03 PM

Would someone sharte with us the cheapest solutions for a pin registered 26mm camera. Also mention the need for it? Like the Canon Scoopic does not have a pin but I understand the lense is fantastic. Would not having a pin in this camera alter ones decission in purchasing a camera that could produce a great picture?


Hi,

Mitchell pin registered 16mm cameras sell on Ebay for about $500. What doyou want to shoot?

Stephen
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#3 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 12:11 PM

The Scoopic has a permanently mounted cheap zoom lens on it -- I doubt it is very good but it may be adequate for what you want. The Scoopic is really a consumer Super-8 camera on steroids.

Most 16mm cameras use the pulldown claw to help register the film, especially since Super-16 only has perfs on one side. The image is usually pretty steady on cameras like the Aaton despite the lack of a registration pin due to the pressure plate, etc.

You'd have to use an old Mitchell probably, and it probably can only run regular double-perf 16mm stock if the pin is on the opposite side of the frame than the pulldown claw. Are you doing effects compositing work, is that why you need a pin-registered camera?
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 12:22 PM

although im not a fan of the scoopic in any way,i have to say the lens isnt cheap if its at all similar to the ds8 version. the ds8 zoom has something like 7 rare earth elements in the optical design. granted its only a single coated lens and an older design but it does put out rather good pictures. if the 16mm scoopic has a similar design then id expect to see good quality images out of it.ive even met a cinematogpher who used one a few years ago to get some shots on horseback due to its size, and they were quite happy with the results.i still sure as hell wouldnt get one.
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#5 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 12:35 PM

The Scoopic has a permanently mounted cheap zoom lens on it -- I doubt it is very good but it may be adequate for what you want.


---I have used the Calarts Scoopic back when. The lens was better than an Angie 12-120mm.
Contrastier. Very snappy looking image.

---LV
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#6 Max Lundberg

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 01:00 PM

Like the Canon Scoopic does not have a pin but I understand the lense is fantastic.

There are a couple different models of Scoopic. The lenses are not the same and some of them have a registration pin(like relatively rare "Sound Scoopic").
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#7 Olex Kalynychenko

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 01:45 PM

Would someone sharte with us the cheapest solutions for a pin registered 26mm camera.


Kinor-16 SX-2M.
16 mm PRO cine camera, reflex system, pin registrated, 30 m, 120 m film magazines,
electrical motor with systemof stabilizatin of speed.
You can see many letters about Kinor-16 on old topics.
If you need more details, and have questions, send me letter on e-mail
olex@a-teleport.com
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 02:25 PM

Would someone sharte with us the cheapest solutions for a pin registered 26mm camera. Also mention the need for it? Like the Canon Scoopic does not have a pin but I understand the lense is fantastic. Would not having a pin in this camera alter ones decission in purchasing a camera that could produce a great picture?


Arriflex 16S. Pin registration, built like a tank, the S/B can take any of the Arri Bayonet mount lenses, sync motor available, 1960's professional MOS 16mm camera, can be had on eBay from $700 to $1200.

-Tim
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#9 Mike Rizos

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 09:58 PM

The early grey Scoopic with the 13-76 lens is the one to avoid. The 12.5-75 lens was a big improvement on later models.
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#10 Rik Andino

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 01:21 AM

Would someone sharte with us the cheapest solutions for a pin registered 26mm camera.


I don't really know if they make 26mm cameras... :)
Sounds like a phony format to me.

Seriously though with the quick edit option on you can quickly check your mistakes
& then go back to fix them. It doesn't take that much effort.


Would not having a pin in the camera alter ones decission in purchasing a camera
that could produce a great picture?



Are you're asking us questions for a survey on pin-registered cams?
Cause that's what this sounds like.

Tell us you're problem or situation and you're specific needs
So we can better answer your question.
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#11 Will Paguntalan

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 11:19 PM

The early grey Scoopic with the 13-76 lens is the one to avoid. The 12.5-75 lens was a big improvement on later models.


As an owner of one Scoopic I and 2 "M"s :the lens on the M is quite nice . sharp, warm and contrasty

Unlike the "I" that was just bad.

Shot a fair amount of 2nd unit -matching ARRI SR2 footage rather perfectly -IMHO

I only wish I could afford to re-barrel the lens and mount it on my CP-GSMO!!

(oh yeah and that canon 1.5x extender is a magnificent piece of glass!)
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