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#1 Chris Thompson

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 07:40 PM

Hey everyone, my name is Chris Thompson and I just completed post on my first feature film that I directed/shot/edited/wrote. I also cut the filmmaker trailers. I shot the film as an homage to the grindhouse horror flicks of the 1970's and 80's and was done with love for exploitation films which died away in the mid eighties. If you guys dig them let me know please, it is always cool to see what other cinematographers have to say about my shooting. keep in mind please that the original footage is better than the streaming video on the site. You can find them at http://www.myspace.c...thecanpictures1 along with an advance teaser for an upcoming project called TIME TRAVELER_0 about John Titor. Thanks everyone and enjoy-Chris Thompson, In The Can PicturesCOTD_FINAL_poster_design.jpg
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#2 Kirk Productions

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 02:48 PM

Chris,
The first thing I would do is do SOMETHING to that website. It is really bad on the eyes and I have no idea where your video is that you mention. I'd be happy to take a look at it if you put a direct link.

Eric



Hey everyone, my name is Chris Thompson and I just completed post on my first feature film that I directed/shot/edited/wrote. I also cut the filmmaker trailers. I shot the film as an homage to the grindhouse horror flicks of the 1970's and 80's and was done with love for exploitation films which died away in the mid eighties. If you guys dig them let me know please, it is always cool to see what other cinematographers have to say about my shooting. keep in mind please that the original footage is better than the streaming video on the site. You can find them at http://www.myspace.c...thecanpictures1 along with an advance teaser for an upcoming project called TIME TRAVELER_0 about John Titor. Thanks everyone and enjoy-Chris Thompson, In The Can PicturesCOTD_FINAL_poster_design.jpg


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#3 Morgan Peline

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 10:22 AM

I agree - I don't know where the trailer is either...your website much much too visually busy.
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#4 Donald Mckinnon

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 10:48 AM

sorry bud but I have to agree with the others, I couldn't find your trailer.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 03:20 PM

Me too.

Prepared to watch the production but was invaded by a very overpowering web page. Didn't see the movie anywhere so closed the page down after a few seconds, before my visual cortex exploded.

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#6 Chris Thompson

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 04:29 PM

sorry bud but I have to agree with the others, I couldn't find your trailer.
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What "others" man? There was one other person in here that said that. The site is Black and white, easy to read, I like it, my producers like it, so it isn't changing. The trailers are on the right hand side of the page they are the biggest thing in there, use the scroll bar to move to the right. One page, four trailers, you can't miss them. No one has ever said they can't find them on myspace. Ever. Hope you go back and check them out if you like genre flicks. You will be glad you did.-Chris

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#7 LondonFilmMan

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 12:08 PM

Chris, that's no way to treat people who are willing to give you a critique :huh: Frankly, the web site is horrendous :ph34r: and when you say "so it isn't changing" I immediately feel that your "feature" may also have been "directed/shot/edited/wrote" with as much arrogance <_<
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#8 Justin Hayward

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 12:47 PM

Frankly, the web site is horrendous


To be fair, it's not an official film website, it's just a "myspace" page. However, you could benefit from checking out some slightly more organized "myspace" film pages such as...

http://www.myspace.com/thepuffychair

or

http://www.myspace.c...tertheotherside
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#9 Gareth Munden

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 01:45 PM

I found the trailer.

You guys are lucky !!!
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#10 Kirk Productions

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:25 PM

Now I want to see it. Ha

It would be nice if they were at least named and would be nice if we were given the name of the one we are supposed to view.

Eric

I found the trailer.

You guys are lucky !!!


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#11 Kirk Productions

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:45 PM

Chris,

I managed to find and watch a couple. I maintain that the web site is still too busy and unorganized but I would still comment on your work now that I've seen it. I am assuming you are using free actors which is not your fault but that first guy is terrible, the guy with the long hair. Very unconvincing. That aside, for a trailer it could be shorter. I didnt see much use really for the opener piece with the two guys in the office.

I can tell you have invested some dollars despite it lacking in areas. For example, the make up for the dead guys is average really. In particular the close of the one guy with the circles around his eyes. Either stay further away or have better make up. The shooting scenes - obviously added with some special effects tool. Not that it is a bad thing but it is pretty apparent. Also, I would hate to be the last guy coming out of the office since his buddy just shot right his way. He would have been dead - fratricide at it's best. :)

In the end it looks like you were going for something like night of the living dead but I couldn't tell the relation between the shooting and the dead people.

Oh, and one big thing I think for sequences like that. Music. Wasn't loud enough, wasn't powerful enough to support the scenes.

Eric



Hey everyone, my name is Chris Thompson and I just completed post on my first feature film that I directed/shot/edited/wrote. I also cut the filmmaker trailers. I shot the film as an homage to the grindhouse horror flicks of the 1970's and 80's and was done with love for exploitation films which died away in the mid eighties. If you guys dig them let me know please, it is always cool to see what other cinematographers have to say about my shooting. keep in mind please that the original footage is better than the streaming video on the site. You can find them at http://www.myspace.c...thecanpictures1 along with an advance teaser for an upcoming project called TIME TRAVELER_0 about John Titor. Thanks everyone and enjoy-Chris Thompson, In The Can PicturesCOTD_FINAL_poster_design.jpg



Actually, it was two. :)

What "others" man? There was one other person in here that said that. The site is Black and white, easy to read, I like it, my producers like it, so it isn't changing. The trailers are on the right hand side of the page they are the biggest thing in there, use the scroll bar to move to the right. One page, four trailers, you can't miss them. No one has ever said they can't find them on myspace. Ever. Hope you go back and check them out if you like genre flicks. You will be glad you did.-Chris


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#12 Morgan Peline

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 04:23 PM

What was the song? I love it.

To be frank I thought the lighting and operating could have been done much better. You had the resources but I don't think you made the most use out of them...Now...if I had been your DP, your film would have been super slick... ;)

But then hey, congratulations for finishing your film, not many people have the drive.
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#13 Chris Thompson

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 09:47 PM

What was the song? I love it.

To be frank I thought the lighting and operating could have been done much better. You had the resources but I don't think you made the most use out of them...Now...if I had been your DP, your film would have been super slick... ;)

But then hey, congratulations for finishing your film, not many people have the drive.

Thanks Morgan. The song was the Killing Moon by Echo and the Bunnymen. Also we did the entire feature without resources, accually. The pictures running time is 114 mins and was done on $15,000. The footage you saw was not anything near the quality of the feature, as you saw streaming video and its been graded as well. And the operating is very good, you saw clips from a trailer. What was it that you thought was bad about the camera? Anyways thanks for not attacking the myspace page as everyone eles did, even though I asked people to look at the trailers. Thanks again-CHRIS
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#14 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 05:59 PM

I think that, if you wanted it to look like grindhouse, you should have shot it in Super8 format. No offense, but that didn't look like grindhouse at all.
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 08:32 PM

I think that, if you wanted it to look like grindhouse, you should have shot it in Super8 format. No offense, but that didn't look like grindhouse at all.


I was thinking exactly the same thing
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Posted 20 August 2006 - 02:22 PM

I agree with Mr.Hayward...
the myspace page looks amature. I would suggest
changing it. SIMPLIFY! Make it look more professional!
And as far as the films, they dont do anything for me.
maybe if you bought an HVX200 HD camera, it might
hieghthen the production level. otherwise...
I'll pass.
Good luck in your future pieces,
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#17 Morgan Peline

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 10:48 AM

The pictures running time is 114 mins and was done on $15,000.


Like I said, I'm very impressed the you have pulled this off even if you had very little money.


However...

And the operating is very good, you saw clips from a trailer. What was it that you thought was bad about the camera?



Here, I apologise, but I have to disagree with you completely, regardless of whether these are trailers or not. I can tell what the overall style of your film is like just by watching your trailers. Sorry but I will have to be blunt. Your composition and framing is frankly atrocious. And some of your lighting is as well.

This is what happens when you get 'Director / Producer / Cinematographers', they are Jack of all trades and master of none...

This is what I call Robert Rodriguezitus...

You are very happy with your achievement because you did it on such a low budget, yet you do not realise that had you hired DP/Operator you could have improved your film 100%, with the same resources, because both the blocking and lighting would have been of a higher standard. That's what 'specialised' DPs do, they make your images look good regardless of what tools they have to play with or indeed don't have to play with.

As for your cinematography skills, I feel you don't actually know how to use your tools; your lights and camera to their best advantage to make the best looking images. I think you are most like a good director, but a really bad DP and most likely bad editor.

Much of your composition is very wooly and unconsidered. Some of your shots look like you just kind of pointed your camera in the general direction of your actors without really thinking about composition at all.

Your framing style is neither well composed 'continuity-style' nor 'gritty hand-held documentary realism' - it just looks like an inexperienced operator creating amateurish shots...it's plainly just bad framing. I would suggest you get a specialist in until your composition and lighting skills have improved, then at least you can concentrate on directing or producing, which as I say is most likely what you do best.

I don't mean to be harsh, I am only doing so because you did finish a your film, so it's very obvious that you have drive and commitment which is fantastic!

Therefore I would suggest you do yourself a favour next time round and get people who can help you make something more professional looking.

Even if you are doing a pastiche of low-budget horror films, there's a way of doing it so it looks right.

Like I said before if you had hired me or many of the other 'youngsters' on this board, we could have given you a much higher quality film using exactly the same resources and budget simply because creating images is what we specialise in day in, day out.

Also just commenting on the previous reply, it has nothing at all with what camera, or what lights etc....

It's how you use your tools that count.

An experienced DP can make miniDV footage look better than an amateur with a high end HD camera.

I find sometimes that members of this forum become too obsessed with cameras sometimes.
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Posted 22 August 2006 - 09:58 PM

An experienced DP can make miniDV footage look better than an amateur with a high end HD camera.


Very well put, Morgan.
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Posted 29 August 2006 - 01:43 PM

its quite horrible. this is not a film nor a movie (as in moving images). in my opinion you should have concentrated at least on one thing to make that thing right: i.e. camera work (framing, composition), lighting, mis-en-scene, acting, editing (good montage or evenly important - good sound!) ... something.
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Posted 29 August 2006 - 02:07 PM

Not to add insult to injury because I agree with most of what was said above, but it appears very studentish. Actually, kind of like what someone would do before they go to film school. I admit, I'm not a fan of the genre but I maintain an open mind and that didn't do anything for me. I know $15k isn't a lot of money, but....hell, bravo for doing it, keep trying.

I also had trouble finding it on the myspace page. I wasn't sure which one of the windows was the one. Also, all of the text and the busy background....perhaps you know a graphic designer that could help?
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