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#1 Jonathan Brough

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:02 PM

Hi there - can anyone recommend what brands of oil and grease are best to use for lubricating the Konvas 1M? I have read that teflon greases are good - does anyone have any brand names or suppliers?
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#2 Steve Larsen

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:34 PM

Hi, not sure if your a member of the Konvas group in the smartgroups website but there is a little info on lube there. I have a 2m and I am using a synthetic greese made by "Loctite" called "Viper Lube" for the areas to be greased and I'm using a gun oil for the spots to be oiled. There's photo's of the areas to be lubed and oiled on the www.konvas.info website and the address for smart groups is:

http://www.smartgrou...m/groups/konvas

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Edited by steve@sky-line.ca, 13 August 2006 - 10:35 PM.

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#3 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 10:39 PM

Visit Commiecam.com . They have a lot of info there. I posed a similler question a while back, sewing machine oil and watch oil were the universal answers.
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#4 Sam Longoria

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 01:27 AM

Visit Commiecam.com . They have a lot of info there. I posed a similler question a while back, sewing machine oil and watch oil were the universal answers.


I use whatever's on my workshop shelf, toward the front of the stack. Some days it's my Mitchell oil bottle, or my can of WD-40 (kerosene and light oil), or 3-in-1 oil, they all work. Oil's well that ends well.

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#5 Freya Black

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 01:38 AM

Hi, not sure if your a member of the Konvas group in the smartgroups website but there is a little info on lube there. I have a 2m and I am using a synthetic greese made by "Loctite" called "Viper Lube" for the areas to be greased and I'm using a gun oil for the spots to be oiled. There's photo's of the areas to be lubed and oiled on the www.konvas.info website and the address for smart groups is:

http://www.smartgrou...m/groups/konvas

Steve Larsen.


Incidently the Konvas group is supposed to have relocated to :

http:\\www.konvas.org

where there is a listserv.

love

Freya

Edited by Freya Black, 14 August 2006 - 01:39 AM.

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#6 Olex Kalynychenko

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 07:17 AM

I use whatever's on my workshop shelf, toward the front of the stack. Some days it's my Mitchell oil bottle, or my can of WD-40 (kerosene and light oil), or 3-in-1 oil, they all work. Oil's well that ends well.


Not need use any oil for Konvas mechanisms, i see a some mechanisms with sticked parts from bad oil.
WD-40 can be fluid a some.
I recommend use a fine-instrument lubricant, (time-piece lubricant, clock oil, watchmakers' oil ), but, not
too liquid version.
The evry good oil with wide range of temperature -40..+40.
But, If you will shoot with low temperature, need use other type of oil.
The fluid oil must have axis, axis of mirror disk.
The parts of transport pin, ball bearing of magaiznes must have consistent fat.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 12:26 AM

The fluid oil must have axis, axis of mirror disk.
The parts of transport pin, ball bearing of magaiznes must have consistent fat.

I think what Olex is trying to say is that the main drive shaft and the shaft that runs the shutter must be lubed with oil, while the pulldown claw mechanism, gears and bearings in the magazines must be packed with grease. I read somewhere that you don't want to use petroleum based grease, because it may weaken the nylon gears in the camera and magazines.

I wouldn't use WD-40. It is petroleum based and has degreaser-like qualities. Try instead a Teflon / PTFE based oil:

http://www.radioshac...oductId=2102643
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#8 Adam Frisch FSF

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 05:28 AM

Any old grease - they're like tractors :P
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#9 Olex Kalynychenko

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 07:58 AM

I think what Olex is trying to say is that the main drive shaft and the shaft that runs the shutter must be lubed with oil, while the pulldown claw mechanism, gears and bearings in the magazines must be packed with grease. I read somewhere that you don't want to use petroleum based grease, because it may weaken the nylon gears in the camera and magazines.

I wouldn't use WD-40. It is petroleum based and has degreaser-like qualities. Try instead a Teflon / PTFE based oil:

http://www.radioshac...oductId=2102643


Yes, the main drive shaft ( friction bearing) and shaft of shutter ( friction bearing) must have oil.
The Parts of pull down claw mechanism must be packed with grease.
But, you can combine of grease and oil on a some parts of pull down claw mechanism.
The one part of pull down claw mechanism can be from nylon ( at last version ) or from steel.
But, i use grease for this part from nylon too.
I don't know, but, i nont mix grease with different base.
The film magazine have one gear from nylon, and not important too much, what version of grease will have this gear. This gear set on axis with ? ball bearing

I make a few experiments with modern greases, I don't know, but, I trust more of petroleum based greases with additive.

This russian names of grease: Litol-24, Type-158, oil MN-60.

The original user manual wrote : oil WNII NP-6 TU 38-00.1168-74,
grease WNII NP-271, OKB-122-7

The re-lube of pull down claw mechanism need do after every 1500 m of film.
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