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#1 Roger Branit

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 12:31 PM

I have an SR II and Zeiss 10-100 zoom that I would like to convert to super 16. I've come across quite a few places that say they can do the job. Prices and turnaround time vary quite a bit. Does anybody have any experience, good or bad, with any of these conversions. Any recomendations would be welcome. Also any warnigs of who I should not use.
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#2 Tim Carroll

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:54 PM

Highly recommend Axel Broda. Second would be P+S Technic in Germany.

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#3 Daniel Stigler

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:14 PM

P&S and Gecko Cam in Munich, Germany do magnificent jobs.
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#4 Roger Branit

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 04:49 PM

Thanks for the input. In my checking around P&S and Axel Broda have come up seveal times as good options. Another is Cinema Technic in Miami. This is the first I've heard of Gecko Cam though. I'll have to check for a web site for them. I also understand that Visual Products, the used equipment dealer in Ohio, does a conversion. Don't know much about thiers vs any of the others though.

I'd like to avoid the time and expense of shipping overseas, so Axel Brode sound like he might be my best bet.

Any thoughts about the lens conversion. Same place that does the camera?

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#5 Tim Carroll

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 06:59 PM

Lens conversions, not the same place that does the camera. Two entirely different fields of expertise.

Axel is an expert at Arriflex cameras, and camera conversions.

Paul Duclos of Duclos Lens in LA is who I would recommend for a lens conversion.

Also really think about whether you want a conversion or not. You have to add glass to the Zeiss 10-100 to convert it to Super 16, and adding glass will always degrade the image somewhat. Whether that "somewhat" is acceptable is a matter of much opinion and debate.

Another option would be to just have a Bayonet to PL mount put on the Zeiss and use it for 25mm to 100mm (not adding any glass so not degrading the image in any way) and using primes for 9.5mm to 25mm. That way you still have the zoom for the upper focal lengths, and primes for everything wide.

Just some thoughts,
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#6 timHealy

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 08:20 PM

Isn't Cinema Technic the US rep for Pand S technik?

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#7 Stephen Williams

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 07:15 AM

Isn't Cinema Technic the US rep for Pand S technik?

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Hi,

Yes, but they also offer a lower cost conversion for those without unlimited funds.

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#8 Roger Branit

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 08:38 AM

I have to admit that I've always felt like the lens conversion was a bit of a compromise. I would actually prefer to replace it with one of the newer lenses engineered for Super 16. However, I can't really see limiting myself to just a portion of the zoom range, and the conversion itself is a big enough investment that I probably can't afford to both convert the camera and replace the lens at this point. Of course the PL conversion will alow me to use a whole new range of lenses if I need to rent them for a specific job.

Any contact info for Duclos Lens?

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#9 Tim Carroll

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 10:26 AM

http://www.ducloslenses.com/
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Posted 22 September 2006 - 10:31 AM

There are many who felt that the Optex conversion of the Zeiss 10-100 T2 into a 12-120 T2.8 actually improved the performance of the lens.
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#11 John Mastrogiacomo

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 10:59 AM

There are many who felt that the Optex conversion of the Zeiss 10-100 T2 into a 12-120 T2.8 actually improved the performance of the lens.

Doesn't the conversion make the lens a T2.4? When Stuart Rabin of Focus Optics converted mine with the Optex conversion lit he said it was now a T2.4 lens. :huh:
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#12 Mitch Gross

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 04:42 PM

Yes, sorry, 2.4. It's been a while.
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