Ok now it's clear I have a great camera...
Posted 05 October 2006 - 10:36 AM
My lens is the 20x one, surely that's better than the 16x one? It's one of Canons luxury range, so surely that is a good start up lens for now. Nothing against the 20x lens but is their a budget lens you can get that allows images that look a little more cinematic?
If anyone has any tips or suggestions what I should go for in a lens considering I'm looking for that film look ... I would be very grateful : )
Also I am looking for a really nice wide angle lens, one that can do 35 mm. On a budget! I've seen some on Ebay but i'm just worried that they are low in price for a reason.
Also if anyone has any tips or experience on getting nice images in low light or night that would be really helpful. I've seen the other thread but all I'm really worried about is getting any grain to go from the image. My camera is being used by a friend on a project at the moment while I'm here editing. I have committed to this film project but I don't have my camera near me to start testing things out and the settings for this in mind properly.
Just from my memory night or low light images looked very grainy. What I really want is the dark and black areas to not have that grain but just nice rich blackness. Will adjusting the gain solve this?
What I want is for myself and the lighting guy to worry about the lighting of things and just leave the XL2 to worry about getting a none dull or grainy looking image. So all I really want to know is when I get my camera back and play with the settings can I get rich blacks and shadows, and dimly lit atmospheric shots. Or will my XL2 and Lens mean I am always going to get a certain amount of graininess?
Posted 05 October 2006 - 12:45 PM
Gain produces grain, that's just how it is. Instead, see what you can get out of:
Raising the master ped and setup
Putting the blacks to "stretch"
Using a lower shutter speed (1/30 if shooting 30fps, 1/24 if shooting 24p). One thing to be careful of is you'll get more motion blur with these lower shutter speeds, so see if that looks okay to you. It doubles the sensitivity (you gain a stop more light), though.
Coring helps with noise reduction when you use gain. I THINK more coring (slider to the right) = more noise reduction. I might have that backwards though.
Posted 05 October 2006 - 02:57 PM
And Josh thanks for the lighting tips! I'm really not used to dealing with low light situations. I always thinks its best to work around them where possible, so it really helps to have the advice. I'm quite looking forward now to the challenge of DOP on this film.
The lighting issue was daunting but I don't see now why it should be a problem. Or at least the XL2 wont be anything less than any other camera in the same range out their. So it's just up to me now as a camera operator!
Posted 06 October 2006 - 04:02 AM
Posted 06 October 2006 - 01:51 PM
Any sort of tips on keeping low light images cinematic?
The problem I?m still finding is that everything looks very eventy or like any other high picture digital camera, which of course it. And I know I?m not ever going to get a true film look on any camera like but I have seen some very good examples of how at has been achieved really closely. This is most likely a lot to do with lighting. But I?m desperately trying to get away from the event camera look trying do a feature film look, at least as much as I can.
At the moment I?ve just set the camera to Cine and the 25p frame rate and am still experimenting with everything else, doing my best to figure out how to get dramatic rather than fly on the wall pictures.
Posted 07 October 2006 - 07:23 AM
Posted 07 October 2006 - 03:47 PM
The XL2 really is amazing in low light! I cant believe I ever doubted my camera now. I?m just dying to get filming.