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#1 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 03:56 AM

If you live in the UK, you've probably seen the ads for this new series, which is a spin-off of Dr Who. I've been doing a lot of operating work on it over the last three or four months, and I think it's going to be good. The first episode airs tonight at 9.00pm BBC 3.
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#2 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 05:59 AM

Hi,

I'll have a look at it for the sake of the pictures, but I can't share your optimism.

Let's face it, Doctor Who was hardly high art.

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#3 Matthew Buick

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:54 AM

You shot a couple of Doctror Whos didn't you, Stuart.
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#4 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 09:39 AM

Let's face it, Doctor Who was hardly high art.


I know what you mean, Phil, but Torchwood is aimed at adults and is much darker than Dr Who. It still shares the same universe as Dr Who, but the scripts have been very interesting on the whole.

Time will tell...

You shot a couple of Doctror Whos didn't you, Stuart.


Not me, I'm afraid.
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#5 Matthew Buick

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 10:02 AM

Not me, I'm afraid.


Oh right, I'm sure I saw your name somewhere, perhaps you could enlighten me.
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#6 Keith Mottram

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 11:25 AM

which cameras? 750p's? or dodgy-betas a la dr who?
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#7 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 11:40 AM

F750 with Digital Primos. Varicam for slo-mo. Later episodes used ENG lenses, don't know why.
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#8 Matthew Buick

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 02:05 PM

F750 with Digital Primos. Varicam for slo-mo. Later episodes used ENG lenses, don't know why.


So that's the camera they use on Doctor Who, the root of all evil, put one of those in the hands of Richard Boddington, and God help us. :D
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#9 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 04:23 AM

The F750 ised on Torchwood, not Doctor Who. They use DigiBeta.
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#10 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:29 AM

Rory is not shooting any of it. I'm guessing you've been looking at IMDB. The DP for blocks 1,2,3 & 5 was Mark Waters, with Ray Orton shooting blocks 4 & 6 & Simon Butcher block 7.

Rory & Ernie Vinzce are both back on Dr Who, I believe.
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#11 Matthew Buick

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:52 AM

Ernest Vincze BSC?


Man, he sucks.
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#12 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 11:27 AM

Man, he sucks.


As cinematography.com's self proclaimed resident 'n00b' you'd do well to show a little more respect for people vastly more experienced more than yourself

You may not like his work, but given your own inexperience you don't have the right to make blanket statements like this.
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#13 Keith Mottram

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 06:40 AM

Okay so I tried to watch Torchwood last night and decided to forget about the clunky acting, poor script and constant need to point out its pointless welshness ("ooh dafid theres an alien eating a leek") and concentrate on its cinematography. i lasted half a very painful hour. this show makes eastenders look like days of heaven. how is it possible to get such bad results from 750s. I've been editing hours and hours of 750 HDcam footage over the last few months with many different lighting styles and colour configurations and i just dont get it. i cant see how its possible to make something look that... not even bland... it was quite simply painful. what glass is being used? a whisky tumbler? and has the bbc heard of something called post production? the editing was passable but the slow-mo was avid offline circa 1992 and i cant help but feel a tiny bit of colour correction could go a long way... what a shame, this could have been a great show and the sad thing is i bet there are british people with such low standards that they'll think it is.
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#14 Matthew Buick

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 01:30 PM

As cinematography.com's self proclaimed resident 'n00b' you'd do well to show a little more respect for people vastly more experienced more than yourself

You may not like his work, but given your own inexperience you don't have the right to make blanket statements like this.


HA HA HA HA HA, just a little joke, if he got into the BSC then he's got to be good.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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#15 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 02:01 PM

constant need to point out its pointless welshness ("ooh dafid theres an alien eating a leek")


It's set in Cardiff with a predominantly Welsh cast - what do you expect? I've never heard anyone complain about the number of cockneys in Eastenders....
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Posted 24 October 2006 - 03:05 PM

Keith didn't only point criticism towards its "predominantly Welsh cast"
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Posted 24 October 2006 - 03:05 PM

I've never heard anyone complain about the number of cockneys in Eastenders....


Do real cockneys actually still exist? If they do I haven't seen many in East London.
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#18 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 03:29 PM

Hi,

> Okay so I tried to watch Torchwood last night

Crikey, that was a bit stupid, wasn't it?

Don't say I didn't tell you so.

Welsh aliens. I'd say you couldn't make it up, but unfortunately they've proven that you could.

The reason it looks pants is that it's probably being shot by the guys who set up the News 24 studio lighting. This is in accordance with two articles in the BBC's charter:

24.a) iii - All programming will be photographed in such a manner as to appear to have been drawn from a stock footage archive twenty years ago;

and

36.c) iv - The corporation will make all reasonable endeavours to spend as much semi-public money as possible while being crap.

Seriously, you've seen it now. These guys' idea of lighting is "science fiction equals party gels!", and goes no further.

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#19 Matthew Buick

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 03:54 PM

It's set in Cardiff with a predominantly Welsh cast - what do you expect? I've never heard anyone complain about the number of cockneys in Eastenders....


But Doctor Who has always been 'a thouroghly English programme', those damn Welsh are ruining it with their crappy Welshness...

...THEY MUST DIE !!!11!


All programming will be photographed in such a manner as to appear to have been drawn from a stock footage archive twenty years ago;


What the F6 are you talking about ?
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#20 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 04:19 PM

Keith didn't only point criticism towards its "predominantly Welsh cast"


I am aware of that. However, that was the point I was addressing, hence the reason I only quoted that part of Keith's post.
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