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#1 Adam Berra

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 11:18 PM

I'm shooting a short on s16, and I plan to shoot on fuji eterna 500T. I am trying to acheive a very smooth look with little detail in the highlights and shadows. My though was to overexpose two stops and pull one. I was curious as to whether anyone had tried something similar with this stock and could provide any insight.
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#2 Chris Keth

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 11:57 PM

I'm shooting a short on s16, and I plan to shoot on fuji eterna 500T. I am trying to acheive a very smooth look with little detail in the highlights and shadows. My though was to overexpose two stops and pull one. I was curious as to whether anyone had tried something similar with this stock and could provide any insight.



How is that going to achieve your goal of little shadow detail?
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#3 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 01:07 AM

What do you mean by "little detail"? More detail (less contrast) or less detail (high contrast)? Overexposing and pull-processing a lower-contrast stock like Eterna 500T is only going to make it even lower in contrast.
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#4 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 01:21 AM

I just finished a short on super16 on eterna 500T, I overexposed a stop (rated at 250) and pulled a stop.
The Director wanted a very low contrast slightly desaturated pastely look, thats why I did the pull.
I really liked the effect, it gave the highlights a bit of a nice softness to them which I liked as well.
The blacks were pretty milky though so we ended up bringing them down a little bit in certain shots/scenes in telecine (still had a very low con look, but just a bit less milky).
Hope this helps.
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 07:41 AM

Can you post some frame?
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 12:22 PM

Sorry I wasn't very specific in what I wanted to do. Tomas, that sounds interesting, it'd be great to see some frames.
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#7 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 01:39 PM

err...yeah, the only problem is right now I only have a DVD copy of our Telecine footage, I dont know how to export still frames from a DVD...I know if I could get the DVD footage into a final cut timeline I could do it, but I cant seem to import this DVD into final Cut (I only just started using final cut recently)...If someone could tell me how, I will post many frames on here and be eternaly greateful, as I have wanted to do this for a while but could never figure out how (I know it's possible because I have imported footage from a DVD before but the ones from the telecine house don't seem to work with final cut).
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Edited by Tomas Koolhaas, 23 October 2006 - 01:40 PM.

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#8 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 04:37 PM

Anyone.....no....oh well, we will just have to wait till I get DVCAM copies then...unless someone can tell me how to import a DVD into final Cut....anyone.....
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#9 Sakari Suuronen

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:00 AM

Tomas, I remember brining stuff from dvd to Final Cut through "Mac The Ripper" program. It's free, google it. I remember it was a bit tricky but not impossible.

I'd also like to see your footage.
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#10 Rob Featherstone

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:56 AM

There is a great program dvdxdv http://www.dvdxdv.com/ which is not very expensive that can convert dvd files to quicktime. There is also mac the ripper for other reasons. But if it is something you shot I think dvdxdv should do what you want.


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#11 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:34 PM

There is a great program dvdxdv http://www.dvdxdv.com/ which is not very expensive that can convert dvd files to quicktime. There is also mac the ripper for other reasons. But if it is something you shot I think dvdxdv should do what you want.
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Cheers guys,
I just got it (DVDxDV), I will give it a shot...If it works..stills will follow, if not...back to the drawing board.
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#12 Seamus Mulligan-Ferry

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 12:01 AM

Cheers guys,
I just got it (DVDxDV), I will give it a shot...If it works..stills will follow, if not...back to the drawing board.


Will snagging a screen capture directly from the DVD work? I know the regular screen capture function is disabled in DVD playback on Macs, but if you download the Capture widget at -

Capture Widget - Apple.com

-you should be able to open dashboard, click on it and capture a paused DVD image (circumventing the disabled screen capture issue). Anyways, might be easier/quicker.

I believe I may have learned this trick from a David Mullen post--One of the many posts full of helpful information he's provided on this site.
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#13 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 01:51 AM

Will snagging a screen capture directly from the DVD work? I know the regular screen capture function is disabled in DVD playback on Macs, but if you download the Capture widget at -

Capture Widget - Apple.com

-you should be able to open dashboard, click on it and capture a paused DVD image (circumventing the disabled screen capture issue). Anyways, might be easier/quicker.

I believe I may have learned this trick from a David Mullen post--One of the many posts full of helpful information he's provided on this site.


Haha I just read that post too late, I already spent an hour converting the DVD to a quicktime,
I have exported some stills but now cant seem to make attachments to my posts....it says O Bytes left before I even make any attachments????
Is it because I am a basic member????
Cheers.

Edited by Tomas Koolhaas, 27 October 2006 - 01:54 AM.

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