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#1 J. Anthony Gonzales

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Posted 22 November 2006 - 01:41 PM

Hi.


Does anybody know of any good shops in Los Angeles that still transfer 1/4" tape to 35mm mag?

Any leads would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

John G.
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#2 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 03:56 PM

I actually would like to know this myself as I'm sure Bill would sense we both want to use Nagras. Anybody? You might find the answers you seek at Recording.org in their sound for film and video section, but be warned up front you get a rash of poop about still wanting to use analog aquisition as opposed to digital, but eventually someone WILL answer your question. B)
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Posted 24 November 2006 - 06:55 PM

I actually would like to know this myself as I'm sure Bill would sense we both want to use Nagras. Anybody? You might find the answers you seek at Recording.org in their sound for film and video section, but be warned up front you get a rash of poop about still wanting to use analog aquisition as opposed to digital, but eventually someone WILL answer your question. B)


Yes, I could go digital, but it'd be a little hard threading DAT on my KEM. =)

And yes, still looking for any leads on my original question. Anybody out there have anything?


Thanks,

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#4 David Venhaus

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 09:57 PM

There are still places that do 1/4in tape to 35mm mag transfers in L.A. FotoKem's website says they do it but as to their quality, I don't know, I haven't had sound transfers done there, only film processing. I know there are some more labs and post places that do it as well, you might want to check http://www.la411.com/ It has links and contact info related to filmmaking resources in L.A.

Edited by David A Venhaus, 24 November 2006 - 09:58 PM.

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#5 Sam Wells

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 12:15 AM

NT Audio

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ps have not done sound work per se with FotoKem but they did some custom work for me - hi con positive of a track with optical timecode, good work done right.
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#6 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 03:16 AM

Yes, I could go digital, but it'd be a little hard threading DAT on my KEM. =)

John G.


You got a KEM too, solidarity brother. Old School RULES. I gots 2 of 'em! Between 'em I've got academy, widescreen and scope all covered and here's what I've found, once you get those holes in the DAT cassettes over the KEM spindles, the rest is a breeze. :rolleyes: Oh by the by, you need to change your display name to your real name or they'll delete and that's also why you didn't get any replies before this you just FYI B)

NT Audio

-Sam

ps have not done sound work per se with FotoKem but they did some custom work for me - hi con positive of a track with optical timecode, good work done right.


Sam, how much did they charge you at NT and FotoKem?

Edited by James Steven Beverly, 25 November 2006 - 03:13 AM.

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#7 J. Anthony Gonzales

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 05:48 PM

Really? I haven't logged on in a while. Anyway, ok. Display name updated.

You got a KEM too, solidarity brother. Old School RULES. I gots 2 of 'em! Between 'em I've got academy, widescreen and scope all covered and here's what I've found, once you get those holes in the DAT cassettes over the KEM spindles, the rest is a breeze. :rolleyes:


James:

I've got 5! My 8-plate is my baby. It has a nice pair of 3-way picture heads on it. Believe it or not, I've got a 8-perf VistaVision picture head laying around somewhere. Yes, old school DOES rule!

Are you local in Los Angeles?


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Posted 25 November 2006 - 06:02 PM

Sam, how much did they charge you at NT and FotoKem?


Hi, Although I know them by reputation I've never used NT Audio personally -- the one project I talked to them about went a different route; they were very knowlegeable and the prices seemed in line with NY houses - -Trackwise, Sound One.

FotoKem was quite reasonable

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#9 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 11:16 PM

Really? I haven't logged on in a while. Anyway, ok. Display name updated.
James:

I've got 5! My 8-plate is my baby. It has a nice pair of 3-way picture heads on it. Believe it or not, I've got a 8-perf VistaVision picture head laying around somewhere. Yes, old school DOES rule!

Are you local in Los Angeles?
John G.


5!!!!?? Whoa. I would LOVE to see that VistaVision head. I thought it was exessive to own 2 :D ! Now I know who to ask when I have questions. I haven't got the chance to use mine yet as I'm still setting my processing and editing rooms up and don't know a lot about flatbed editing so any advice would be greatly apprciated. I'm in El Paso so any sound tracks will have to be shipped out and done. I don't think Pheonix has sound transfer facillities so LA is the next closest place. I want the eventually get an optical sound recorder and do my own but that's down the road. This is very cool though, John :)

Hi, Although I know them by reputation I've never used NT Audio personally -- the one project I talked to them about went a different route; they were very knowlegeable and the prices seemed in line with NY houses - -Trackwise, Sound One.

FotoKem was quite reasonable

-Sam


Thanks Sam but do you have any idea what I can expect costwise? A ballpark figure would do.
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Posted 26 November 2006 - 12:30 AM

About three or four years ago, there was a screening room site that did transfers. Cost was 11 cents per 35mm foot and that included mag stock. They are no longer around, from what I can tell. Hopefully I can find somewhere. I checked out the NT Audio website. I'll give them a call on Monday.


John G.

Edited by J. Anthony Gonzales, 26 November 2006 - 12:31 AM.

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#11 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 01:18 AM

I'd appreciate it if you get the chance, letting me know what they charge.

Edited by James Steven Beverly, 26 November 2006 - 01:20 AM.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 10:15 AM

Just call them !

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#13 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 02:53 PM

What, and do things for myself?! :blink: Come on, get real, I'm an ACTOR, for cryin' out loud!! I'm suppose to be catered to hand and foot. <_< I really got to get an enteurage. :rolleyes:
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 03:46 PM

Well you can have your people call their people but they are their people :)

seriously they don't bite so don't worry

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#15 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 04:25 PM

Naw, seriously, I don't have a problem with calling, the only reason I wanted him to post it was for everybody else's benigfit so they would get an idea about costs. B)
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 09:21 PM

So, I contacted NT audio today. Came out to about .24/ft. including full-coat stock. And they don't have the means to transfer 1/4", so that's a DAT price.

I have a few other leads I'm going to look into. Now, mind you, I do have an old MagnaTech dubber that would do the trick. It has an input for sync to a Nagra. I intend to use this machine for scratch tracks and effects. As I am by no means a sound engineer, I would be afraid to transfer all of my production/dialog reels on this machine. Can this be a simple job in so much as just setting the output levels from the Nagra and the input levels on the MagnaTech right? Is that in itself easy to do?

35mm mag stock runs about .04/ft for stripe. That would obviuosly be the cheapest option.


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Posted 28 November 2006 - 04:23 AM

If your nagra has a pilot tone track and the dubber has the input for it, you should be able to resolve it accurately, as long as it is working correctly and the levels are set right. Probably the easiest way to check is just do a shoot/record a test, then resolve it and then sync the pix/sound on a synchronizer or flatbed,etc and check if the sync is properly maintained throughout the shot.

Also if you are really trying to save money, Tapetape in L.A.(or online) sells one pass mag. stock for about half or less then the new price. I've used it before with no problems.
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Posted 01 December 2006 - 12:18 AM

Actually, I don't know what I was thinking, Mine doesn't use a mag track, mine uses 2 optical sound tracks. Who does optical sund transfers, would that be N/T as well?
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Posted 04 December 2006 - 08:38 AM

Your Kems don't have mag heads? Cutting optical sound tracks is how people edited sound before the invention of magnetic tape. Except for maybe special uses, I thought Kems came standard with mag heads. Sometimes they have both optical and mag heads but only optical sound heads seems odd to me, at least for regular editing.

N/T Audio does do optical sound transfers. Talked to them about it for a project I was working on last year but I don't remember the cost of it.
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#20 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 04:08 AM

No you are right, they have both. I just checked the manual which shows you just how much I need to learn. :rolleyes:

Edited by James Steven Beverly, 05 December 2006 - 04:08 AM.

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