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#1 Moe Flaherty

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 11:36 AM

H!

With hybrid technoglogy here. Do you think we should begin a new subcatagory, perhaps, 4:4:4 or 4K or RAW! (for Dalsa talk). I personally want to start calling High Def. Medium Def. and the new hybrids with their ability to put out 4:4:4 ...UBERdef! ;)

What ya think of a new sub catagory?

Thank you!

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#2 Moe Flaherty

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 12:16 PM

H!

When I meant to say was, all these hybrids are currently under the MAIN catagory of "HD Only", and that is not quite encompassing, is it?

So I am suggesting a new MAIN catagory.

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#3 Max Jacoby

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 01:39 PM

While I agree that there is a certain disparity between the high-end cameras and the consumer HD cameras (whose names I can't even recall now) I feel we have enough different main categories as it is. In the end they are all digital cameras so they do belong together in my mind.
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#4 Moe Flaherty

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 02:05 PM

In the end they are all digital cameras so they do belong together in my mind.



Thank you for the reply,

AH, yes they are all digital, but they are not all JUST HD, is my point. Perhaps the MAIN category title needs to be amended to give space to the Hybrids (in the subcats) that are capable of pumping out more!


How about HD and Beyond ONLY! ????


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#5 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 02:20 PM

Hi,

I'm with Mr. Jacoby. The line between low end, medium end, or really super high end camera systems is very blurry. That said, I think it's as well to bear these differences in mind.

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#6 Max Jacoby

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 02:27 PM

The difference between 4 K Bayer cameras and uncompressed/slightly compressed HD cameras is not big enough to warrant a new category in my opinion, especially since in this new 4K category there would only be two cameras, one of whom hasn't been used on a feature yet and the other isn't even available yet.

The Dalsa, Genesis, D-20, Viper, F-950, SI and Red all belong in the same category.
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#7 Gavin Greenwalt

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 03:02 PM

Perhaps the category should just be called DC Only.
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#8 Moe Flaherty

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 04:37 PM

Max,

What I am suggesting is to change the MAIN category TITLE from HD ONLY to something that reflects what is in the subcats. more accurately.

merely that.

only that.:rolleyes:


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#9 Brad Grimmett

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 12:34 AM

Max,

What I am suggesting is to change the MAIN category TITLE from HD ONLY to something that reflects what is in the subcats. more accurately.

merely that.

only that.:rolleyes:
Regards,

moe flaherty
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Geez, no more new categories please! There are a million catagories already...do we really need another when it already fits under another category?
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#10 Gavin Greenwalt

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 04:27 AM

Geez, no more new categories please! There are a million catagories already...do we really need another when it already fits under another category?


Didn't the quote you choose reflect that as the opinion of the OP as well? I'm confused.
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#11 Moe Flaherty

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 09:03 AM

Geez, no more new categories please! There are a million catagories already...do we really need another when it already fits under another category?



H!

I hope you guys don't read the manuals as poorly as you read my posts! :)

NO NEW category, just RE~TITLE the existing one.

Sorry if my very first post was unclear.

Regards!

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#12 Brad Grimmett

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 08:12 PM

Sorry, I misread and posted too quickly.
If we change the HD ONLY forum to something else, then where will all the HD posts go?

I'm confused.

Apparently I was too. Sorrry about that.
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#13 Stephen Williams

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 05:07 AM

Sorry, I misread and posted too quickly.
If we change the HD ONLY forum to something else, then where will all the HD posts go?
Apparently I was too. Sorrry about that.


Hi,

I was thinking that Digital cameras could be categoriesed by price:-

under $10,000
under $20,000
under $40,000
over $40,000

Thats body only or with fixed lens, on the assumption that manufactures choose the market segment that they aim their equipment for.

Just my 2c.

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#14 Patrizio De Sica

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 06:33 AM

Hi,

I was thinking that Digital cameras could be categoriesed by price:-

under $10,000
under $20,000
under $40,000
over $40,000

Thats body only or with fixed lens, on the assumption that manufactures choose the market segment that they aim their equipment for.

Just my 2c.

Stephen


It could or may be a dumb sugesstion but doesn't. It is a dumb suggestion. :P

Like all could classify by the price range. Bah
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#15 Stephen Williams

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 07:33 AM

It could or may be a dumb sugesstion but doesn't. It is a dumb suggestion. :P

Like all could classify by the price range. Bah


Hi Patrizio,

How about the following then:-

Compressed 5:1 or less
Compressed between 5:1 -15:1
Compressed over 15:1

Red could then be discussed in all 3 depending on budget of the production! :D

or how about by lens mount?

Fixed lens & 1/3 lens mount

1/2 inch Lens mount

2/3 inch lens mount

Panavision & PL lens mount

Other lens mount.


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#16 Patrizio De Sica

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 05:46 PM

That's better! :lol:

Hi Patrizio,

How about the following then:-

Compressed 5:1 or less
Compressed between 5:1 -15:1
Compressed over 15:1

Red could then be discussed in all 3 depending on budget of the production! :D

or how about by lens mount?

Fixed lens & 1/3 lens mount

1/2 inch Lens mount

2/3 inch lens mount

Panavision & PL lens mount

Other lens mount.
Stephen


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#17 Patrizio De Sica

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 06:07 PM

I said better so can you also classify the different grade of the dumbness quality on the previous one? :huh:
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#18 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 06:33 PM

I prefer fewer, more general categories than hyper-specific ones. Have you been over to the DVINFO.NET site and seen how many micro-categories there are?
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Posted 19 December 2006 - 11:30 PM

-35mm
-16mm
-8mm
-Digital Cinema (All of the cameras capable of outputting 4:4:4 and has at least a 2/3" or 16mm chip.)
-Video (throw in all of the < or = 4:2:2 HD cameras and 4:4:4 chips < 2/3" or 16mm)
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