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#1 Richardson Leao

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 07:07 AM

Hi all,

I finally have done 16mm telecine my first time. Due to my ignorance, i asked the video house to record DVcam format in my miniDV tapes as I was sure that it would play in a normal minidv camera (the ones grandmothers have). To my deception, they don't. So, just to do a simple edition for previewing it, what should I do that would make sense economically? find somewhere to copy it to other miniDV with miniDV format or a hard drive? Rent a deck? Many thanks
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#2 Andy Sparaco SOC

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 09:27 AM

[ find somewhere to copy it to other miniDV with miniDV format or a hard drive? Rent a deck? Many thanks
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You are far better off having a professional Post house capture your DV tape to the file format you want to work with. In fact you should have had the Xfer to hard drive. The days of video tape are numbered.
The cost of a firewire drive will be the same or less then the cost of a deck rental. Have the post house capture in less then 8 gig chunks so you can back up on DVD-ram
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Posted 13 December 2006 - 10:19 AM

[quote name='Richardson Leao' date='Dec 13 2006, 07:07 AM' post='142386']
Hi all,

I finally have done 16mm telecine my first time. Due to my ignorance, i asked the video house to record DVcam format in my miniDV tapes as I was sure that it would play in a normal minidv camera (the ones grandmothers have).

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I had something similar happen when I had a friend at a local TV station make a DV tape copy of my Student film, thinking I could then transfer to my home computer with any cheapo $250 DV camera. Turns out it was recorded in DVC-Pro50, and it would only play at half speed and no sound. I figured out I could play the tape with higher end prosumer cameras like a Panasonic DVX100a. So maybe you could try to borrow a camera from a filmmaking friend?

Edited by Steve Zimmerman, 13 December 2006 - 10:21 AM.

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 10:47 AM

If you go the camcorder route you should find a Sony DVCAM prosumer camera: a PD-150, like they shoot weddings on (or David Lynch features :P ) or similar. I guess DVX100's can play DVCAM, but there are dropouts. Best to stay with the same brand in this case. Maybe this will help.

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#5 Stephen Williams

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 11:29 AM

Hi all,

I finally have done 16mm telecine my first time. Due to my ignorance, i asked the video house to record DVcam format in my miniDV tapes as I was sure that it would play in a normal minidv camera (the ones grandmothers have). To my deception, they don't. So, just to do a simple edition for previewing it, what should I do that would make sense economically? find somewhere to copy it to other miniDV with miniDV format or a hard drive? Rent a deck? Many thanks


Hi,

A Sony miniDV camera will almost certanly play the DVcam recorded tape.

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#6 Michael Collier

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 03:24 PM

Addendum to stephens post: a sony Prosumer camera will...their handycams won't playback dvcam. The new HDVs will, the PD-150/170 will (and you can rent those cheap) If its short try and call a TV station or a rental house and try and get a buddy-buddy deal with them, you might be able to do it cheaply if you bring your laptop in to capture it to.
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#7 Stephen Williams

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 03:47 PM

Addendum to stephens post: a sony Prosumer camera will...their handycams won't playback dvcam. The new HDVs will, the PD-150/170 will (and you can rent those cheap) If its short try and call a TV station or a rental house and try and get a buddy-buddy deal with them, you might be able to do it cheaply if you bring your laptop in to capture it to.


Michael,

Sony handycams used to, I have a very cheap 3 year old one that I use just for that.

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#8 Richardson Leao

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 07:10 PM

Michael,

Sony handycams used to, I have a very cheap 3 year old one that I use just for that.

Stephen


Hi Stephen,

would you have an idea of any older models that could play dvcam? many thanks
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#9 Sam Wells

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 08:57 PM

I've done it with a Sony PC-1 --- I'm sure there are quite a few others

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#10 Stephen Williams

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 02:51 AM

Hi Stephen,

would you have an idea of any older models that could play dvcam? many thanks


Hi,

I've used several, the all worked, I am not at home so I can't give you the model no of my current one.

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#11 Michael Collier

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 02:51 PM

Really? I had no idea some of the handycams could do that. My buddy had one (forget the model #) and it didn't work on that one. I know most of their semi-pro camera lines will, all their pro lines will, and just about any sony deck meant to play DV25 will play DVCAM. Very interesting since I will be getting my telecine on DVCAM.....any minute now....still waiting....man I should have never said 'put my film on an lower priority for a better rate' at this point I want to pay weekend and holiday rates just to see my footage!
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#12 Marcus Frakes

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 03:53 PM

I played and transferred a DV-Cam signal on my old Sony TRV 900.
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