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#1 mosh mishali

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Posted 28 December 2006 - 12:56 PM

Hey

I'm shooting a music video and there is one secne i want to shoot using an enhancing filter but i want to keep the skin tones warm, what's the right gel or combination of gels to use on the sources lighting the actors?

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#2 Jonathan Bowerbank

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Posted 28 December 2006 - 01:05 PM

"enhancing filter"?
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#3 Jonathan Bowerbank

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Posted 28 December 2006 - 01:45 PM

"enhancing filter"?


Sorry, ended that post abrubtly...errp

If you're using an enhancing filter, you're already dramatically warming up your image and making those reds & oranges really pop. I would say light as normal with tungsten lighting. If you gel your lights with CTO's or reds & magentas, you run the risk of getting a really distastefully warm look.

Tiffen has some exterior examples of what the filter does: http://www.tiffen.co...filter_pics.htm
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#4 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 02:47 PM

Enhancing Filters do nasty things to skintones. They go very pink. Logically, some sort of cyan gel would work to counteract this, but I'd definitely want to test this first before rolling any film for real.
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#5 Sander van de kerkhof

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 09:52 AM

i'm not really sure if this is the real name for but in the Netherlands we call it Cosmo gel, it's basicly a frost gel but then with a sort of peachy/pink color.

i think it's called "Bastard Amber" made by rosco but i'm not sure on that one.

This give works well when you want to warm op a skin tone a bit without creating a very unreal look in your shot.

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 11:21 AM

i'm not really sure if this is the real name for but in the Netherlands we call it Cosmo gel, it's basicly a frost gel but then with a sort of peachy/pink color.

i think it's called "Bastard Amber" made by rosco but i'm not sure on that one.

This give works well when you want to warm op a skin tone a bit without creating a very unreal look in your shot.

Sander,


That gel sounds like LEE Cosmetic peach or similar. Bastard amber is much darker, almost like CTO and doesn't have the frost element.
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#7 Jonathan Bowerbank

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 03:05 PM

btw, since you plan on warming up the entire image itself, you may want to consider doing it in post. So, as always, you'll have the color correct original to fall back on if your use of the filter proves disastrous.
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#8 Chayse Irvin

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 03:16 PM

I like throwing 1/4 CTS [(Color temp straw) which is warm like CTO but has more of a yellowish tone insted of orange] behind a 4x4 frame of heavy deffusion like 216. Looks great on faces. If you wanna warm the whole image up threw a filter in the camera... coral is pretty popular. Shoot a color chart tho... and send your notes to the colorist.

Edited by Chayse Irvin, 31 December 2006 - 03:17 PM.

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#9 Hal Smith

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 03:51 PM

You might look at the Rosco 46** Cal Color Reds. Cal Color gels are calibrated in 1/2 and full stops - very predictable and repeatable. 4615 might work for you.

http://www.rosco.com...s/calcolour.asp
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