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#1 Marty Hamrick

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 09:50 AM

Just caught Last King of Scotland over the weekend.Excellent film,I highly recommend it.There are parts that look like 16mm.It was shot with much handheld,doc style technique.Here's a warning if you're squeamish about violence:There were some scenes where I had to look away,and that's rare for me.The torture scenes had me squirming in the seat.

There were some shots that were quite grainy and contrasty leading me to think it might have been 16mm.It was also timed a bit toward the warm end,giving the piece a sweltery humid feel to it.

Anyone know the story on this film?
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#2 Damon Hoydysh

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 10:25 AM

There are parts that look like 16mm.
Anyone know the story on this film?


They used the following cameras: Aaton Minima, the Aaton Super in Super 16mm and the Arricam LT on 35mm. Everything was shot on Kodak film.

Great performances and great cinematography.
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#3 John Holland

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 10:59 AM

Are you sure that anything was shot on 35mm ??. John Holland.
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#4 Max Jacoby

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 12:25 PM

I'd be curious to know why lenses they shot on.

It looked very 70s style, and I though that in parts that worked really well (mostly the exteriors, which looked very warm and grainy) and in others less so (some of the interiors feel a bit crudely lit).
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#5 Jan Weis

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 02:35 PM

It was shot entirely on Super 16 according to imdb.
http://www.imdb.com/...55590/technical

Its sounds like a very intersting picture, I'm gonna
see it as soon as its out here in Sweden.

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#6 Chris Durham

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 04:16 PM

Just saw Last King of Scotland today. There are a ton of movies I need to catch up on, but I only had time for one this weekend. I made the right choice.

Excellent use of Super16. The whole thing has this great 70s news coverage kind of vibe. At the end, when they're showing the actual footage of Amin, it's like a seamless shift from the movie to the real-world footage.

And all performances were just top-notch
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#7 Tony Brown

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:33 PM

Funny I thought it was very ordinary Particularly the Doctors performance.
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#8 NathanCoombs

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 07:39 AM

I thought it looked fantastic. I was sitting close to the screen in the auditorium - lots of granularity, but it gave it a nice texture and worked well with the story. Looked sharp too.

History Bloys however shot on super-16mm Fuji 500T looked soft, grainy and a mess.

Shows what you acn do with Super-16 and slow, Kodak stock like 7201.
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#9 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 02:47 PM

It was shot entirely on Super 16 according to imdb.
http://www.imdb.com/...55590/technical


IMDB is short for I aM DouBious.

They still have 'Ofelas' listed as being shoot in 35mm anamorphic instead of 65mm.
Sjoman's 'Troll' is listed as being shot in 35mm instead of S16.
& his 'Lyckliga Skitar' while listed as S16, gives the aspect Ratio as 1.37:1.

I would think the Scottish prologue was 35mm.
There are some shots, often interiors, that seem 35mm.



It was shot entirely on Super 16 according to imdb.
http://www.imdb.com/...55590/technical


IMDB is short for I aM DouBious.

They still have 'Ofelas' listed as being shoot in 35mm anamorphic instead of 65mm.
Sjoman's 'Troll' is listed as being shot in 35mm instead of S16.
& his 'Lyckliga Skitar' while listed as S16, gives the aspect Ratio as 1.37:1.

I would think the Scottish prologue was 35mm.
There are some shots, often interiors, that seem 35mm.
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#10 John Holland

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 03:05 PM

Hi Leo , this film was shot on S16 all of it ,looks good doesnt it ?
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#11 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 03:22 PM

Hi Leo , this film was shot on S16 all of it ,looks good doesnt it ?


It sure did.
The hard light gave it such a 60s/70s look. Along with the color manipulation and zooms made it look like a low budget, shot on location thriller from that era.
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#12 John Holland

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 05:25 PM

It was a very low budget ,shot in Uganda but shot in this era which makes Antony Dod Mantle cinematograghy so impressive .
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#13 Matt Goldberg

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 02:27 PM

Any information on the DI, if it was used?

Costumes, hair style, and production design certainly had an impact on the look of this film-- those elements justified manipulating film and giving it a tarnished, somewhat old-stock look, though it still looked like a blend of that and newer stocks that went through a modern digital grading process. I wasn't in tune to that very much as I was captivated by Forest's performance. Though the fast editing and heavy 70's-influenced film look certainly complemented his performance and the film overall-- exciting but dark film.
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#14 Michel Hafner

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 09:04 PM

IMDB is short for I aM DouBious.
They still have 'Ofelas' listed as being shoot in 35mm anamorphic instead of 65mm.

What is your source that it was shot on 65mm? 70mm prints are confirmed.

Sjoman's 'Troll' is listed as being shot in 35mm instead of S16.
& his 'Lyckliga Skitar' while listed as S16, gives the aspect Ratio as 1.37:1.

It's pretty easy to fix such things. Have you tried? With technical data for currently 190,777 films errors are to be expected...
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#15 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 01:01 PM

[quote name='Michel Hafner' date='Feb 28 2007, 09:04 PM' post='157821']
What is your source that it was shot on 65mm? 70mm prints are confirmed.

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The end credits on the print & the press kit.
The variety review gave the same information, but probably used the same sources.
The press materials also mentioned it was one of the first movies to use Kodak's 5257 250D stock.
The 65mm cameras came from Samuelson's London.

[/quote]
It's pretty easy to fix such things. Have you tried?

[/quote]

In Sept. '05.
Also sent in on the same day a cameo appearence in 'The Last Voyage' of it's DP Hal Mohr.

Reference numbers: 050910 174738-450000 & 175521-851000

So it doesn't actually seem east to fix.
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#16 Michel Hafner

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 03:37 PM

Will be fixed in the coming days.
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#17 Adam Thompson

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 01:32 PM

Hi Leo , this film was shot on S16 all of it ,looks good doesnt it ?


John,

How do you know? Can you point me to a tech article somewhere? I'm really interested!
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