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Has anybody used the Glidecam 4000 with the HVX-200?


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#1 Jim Feldspar

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 11:24 AM

In another thread there's a reference to doing this but I think in the context of having a
Redrock adaptor on the camera. With the stock HVX-200 set-up, have people used the Glidecam
4000 and how have your results been?


Also, I have a Stickypod Pro that I love but I've generally used it for smaller cameras although
it should be able to hold an HVX-200 as I believe that it's within the weight range. Still, that's
a lot of $ hanging on a car. Yes, I do tend to safety the heck out of hanging a camera but still
do any of you use a Stickpod Pro for hanging an HVX-200 on a car for moving shots?


Thanks.
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Posted 06 March 2007 - 12:31 PM

First, I too am interested in results of using a glidecam 4000 with the hvx, so any replies would be greatly appreciated.

Second, based on my experience with a stickypod and a GL2, mounting an HVX would be pretty scary. There would be no question that you would have to devise some sort of extra straps and supports, both to keep the stickypod down to the car and to keep the hvx stable once its mounted (this may only be an issue when driving 70 on bumpy roads, which is how i used the stickypod most often). That being said, i think the stickypod can be an excellent starting point for a solid car rig which will be much cheaper than professional alternatives. The work to convert it will be well worth it.
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#3 Jim Feldspar

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 10:44 PM

First, I too am interested in results of using a glidecam 4000 with the hvx, so any replies would be greatly appreciated.

Second, based on my experience with a stickypod and a GL2, mounting an HVX would be pretty scary. There would be no question that you would have to devise some sort of extra straps and supports, both to keep the stickypod down to the car and to keep the hvx stable once its mounted (this may only be an issue when driving 70 on bumpy roads, which is how i used the stickypod most often). That being said, i think the stickypod can be an excellent starting point for a solid car rig which will be much cheaper than professional alternatives. The work to convert it will be well worth it.


Hi Toby,

I too hope for the day when we get a report from somebody with Glidecam/HVX-200
knowledge.

Yeah, I've made out great flying down the highway with a mini-DV camera on the Sticky-Pod
but I'm proceeding cautiously with the bigger camera. I think that it can work but I'm
working out the extra support/safeties that are definitely needed.
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#4 Toby Orzano

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 01:02 PM

I have a friend who just ordered a Glidecam. I assume it's the 4000 because he plans on using it with an HVX. I should be able to report on some tests and maybe post some footage in the next couple of weeks.
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 10:54 PM

I have a friend who just ordered a Glidecam. I assume it's the 4000 because he plans on using it with an HVX. I should be able to report on some tests and maybe post some footage in the next couple of weeks.



Hey Guys
I shot this on my HVX GlideCam 4000. Remember this is my first day using my glidecam. Love to hear from you guys.
http://www.sibte.com/shot.mov

Edited by sibte hassan, 16 March 2007 - 10:54 PM.

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#6 Adam Paul

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 07:48 PM

Hey Guys
I shot this on my HVX GlideCam 4000. Remember this is my first day using my glidecam. Love to hear from you guys.
http://www.sibte.com/shot.mov


Wow, that's a pretty long shot. The HVX200 is quite heavy. Did you have a smooth shooter vest? How much did the whole rig weight?
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#7 sibte hassan

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 12:51 AM

Wow, that's a pretty long shot. The HVX200 is quite heavy. Did you have a smooth shooter vest? How much did the whole rig weight?


I got the whole system and with the complete camera, battery, arm, weights and vest, its like 20lbs. I insisted in taking one long shot and this was my 4th take and the last.
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 04:39 PM

I got the whole system and with the complete camera, battery, arm, weights and vest, its like 20lbs. I insisted in taking one long shot and this was my 4th take and the last.


Oh, OK. As you didn't mention an arm and vest before I thought for a minute you were handholding the 4000 for that long. Maybe if you were Arnie :D
Good job still.
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#9 Ken Minehan

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 10:19 PM

Just a question. You mentioned using the HVX and redrock adapter on the Glide cam. My friend asked me this the other day too and i wasn't sure if it would work. When shooting on with the M2 adapter, the image is inverted right. So you need to mount an on board monitor to view the image the correct way up. So after the adapter, lens, mattebox, camera, monitor and monitor battery is attached to the glide cam, what kind of weight are we talking about. can the glide cam take that kind of weight?

Just a question i had
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 11:27 PM

Just a question. You mentioned using the HVX and redrock adapter on the Glide cam. My friend asked me this the other day too and i wasn't sure if it would work. When shooting on with the M2 adapter, the image is inverted right. So you need to mount an on board monitor to view the image the correct way up. So after the adapter, lens, mattebox, camera, monitor and monitor battery is attached to the glide cam, what kind of weight are we talking about. can the glide cam take that kind of weight?

Just a question i had
Regards
Ken Minehan




i wish GlideCam can take that much weight. Its meant to carry 6-9lbs max.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:50 PM

glidecam sucks! dont use it with out the jacket! I have a gildecam 2000 for sale brand new in the box, take it for $150.00 its not easy to calibrate the camera on it!
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#12 Dave Wowchuk

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 12:09 PM

Gentlemen, gentlemen ... don't bash the manufacturer just because you couldn't balance the rig with the camera. Personally, I think any "handheld" stabilizer is a waste of time (and energy.) Your results WILL be much better when combined with the Smooth Shooter system.

Dave
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#13 sibte hassan

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 12:57 AM

Gentlemen, gentlemen ... don't bash the manufacturer just because you couldn't balance the rig with the camera. Personally, I think any "handheld" stabilizer is a waste of time (and energy.) Your results WILL be much better when combined with the Smooth Shooter system.

Dave



i agree and I have seen paparazzis running with their little 3 chip sony cameras. they are the ones who benefits the most out of glidecam 2000 and 4000.
Also once i balanced my camera i just have silver marker marks on the rig. it takes 10 minutes from opening the box to the first run. Its pretty cool!.
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Posted 02 April 2007 - 03:53 PM

When shooting on with the M2 adapter, the image is inverted right. So you need to mount an on board monitor to view the image the correct way up. So after the adapter, lens, mattebox, camera, monitor and monitor battery is attached to the glide cam, what kind of weight are we talking about. can the glide cam take that kind of weight?


I have mounted and used my DVX, M2, Zoom Lens, monitor, and battery on my Glidecam 4000 and Smooth Shooter without a problem. Oh, because of the inverted image I had to also use an Israeli Arm and clamp to mount the monitor. This added a bit more weight.

Once all was adjusted and balanced it worked rather well. I almost feel it works better with more weight than less.
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Posted 02 April 2007 - 04:15 PM

Hey Guys
I shot this on my HVX GlideCam 4000. Remember this is my first day using my glidecam. Love to hear from you guys.
http://www.sibte.com/shot.mov


sibte hassan, that is a very long shot. Are you using multiple camera angles?

I loved the pan backwards as the man walked to the confrontation. Excellent!

PS. - The one father, who took his anger out on the man...excellent acting B)
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#16 sibte hassan

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Posted 05 April 2007 - 08:55 AM

sibte hassan, that is a very long shot. Are you using multiple camera angles?

I loved the pan backwards as the man walked to the confrontation. Excellent!

PS. - The one father, who took his anger out on the man...excellent acting B)


For this feature, overall I am trying my best to keep least amount of cuts.

Yes actors are great, extremely dedicated to this project. Great acting just makes the shot looks so much better!
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#17 David Regan

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:05 PM

Hey all
I purchased a glidecam 4000 a while back, and have been fairly pleased with the results. A few issues/points with it however.

It is heavy. The handle you hold it with is offset so the weight is in front of your wrist. Bear that in mind when thinking about what else you want to put on the camera and how long you want your shots to be. I don't have a vest/support system of anysort just the base glidecam, and I can usually get away with a 1-2 minute take if needs be, depending on the day lol.
It isn't perfect for everything. It has been tricky I've found to have somone pull focus on this by hand, as their added grip throws things off, If people have found a solution to this that would be great.
The footage can be very smooth, and almost imitate the look of a small jib/dolly, or it can look downright aweful, it depends on your skill with the glidecam, how well it is balanced, and your environment.

So all in all I'm glad I bought it, it has worked will with the HVX200 as long as you don't mind the weight. I've used it for certain things on several other people's films and it looks pretty good. If I get a chance I'll put some footage online.

BTW nice work Sibte, especially for your first day. I enjoy the 'documentary' style long take, although that must've been rough on your arm with the glidecam lol.
Good luck all

Edited by David Regan, 10 May 2007 - 12:08 PM.

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#18 Jim Feldspar

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 11:25 AM

Hey all
I purchased a glidecam 4000 a while back, and have been fairly pleased with the results. A few issues/points with it however.

It is heavy. The handle you hold it with is offset so the weight is in front of your wrist. Bear that in mind when thinking about what else you want to put on the camera and how long you want your shots to be. I don't have a vest/support system of anysort just the base glidecam, and I can usually get away with a 1-2 minute take if needs be, depending on the day lol.
It isn't perfect for everything. It has been tricky I've found to have somone pull focus on this by hand, as their added grip throws things off, If people have found a solution to this that would be great.
The footage can be very smooth, and almost imitate the look of a small jib/dolly, or it can look downright aweful, it depends on your skill with the glidecam, how well it is balanced, and your environment.

So all in all I'm glad I bought it, it has worked will with the HVX200 as long as you don't mind the weight. I've used it for certain things on several other people's films and it looks pretty good. If I get a chance I'll put some footage online.

BTW nice work Sibte, especially for your first day. I enjoy the 'documentary' style long take, although that must've been rough on your arm with the glidecam lol.
Good luck all


David, I go without the vest too but do you use the forearm brace? It has a metal post
for mounting the rig and gives a lot of support and a lot of relief to the operator and it's
fairly inexpensive.
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#19 David Regan

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 05:25 PM

Jim, I don't have the forearm brace as of now. I'm looking to either buy one soon, or fabricate my own version, Glad to hear they really do help, because the fatigue of glidecam+hvx is a real downside.
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#20 Jonathan Bowerbank

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 02:26 AM

I used the Glidecam recently with a DVX100, and it worked great! I really liked the feel and ease of use.

But keep in mind, its weight is hard on your wrist...forearm, bicep, tricep, traps and your back. So DO try and get the full vest and all.
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