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Z1 FX1, is it proggressive?


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#1 David Bradley

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 06:26 PM

uni recently purchased a z1 and a few FX1s, do either of these cameras have a true proggressive capturing mode?
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 08:42 PM

The FX1 doesnt. I dont think the Z1 has it either but I might be wrong (immagine that)
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#3 Troy Warr

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 09:04 PM

Neither have true progressive sensors.

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 08:21 AM

they don't have progressive ccd's for hd, only sd, but the pal version of the fx1 and the z1 in pal mode shoot 25p in cineframe mode and it works quite well.

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#5 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 09:32 AM

they don't have progressive ccd's for hd, only sd, but the pal version of the fx1 and the z1 in pal mode shoot 25p in cineframe mode and it works quite well.

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It doesn't shoot 25P, in "25F" mode, it shoots 50i and creates 25P out of that.
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#6 Matt Sandstrom

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 05:51 PM

that's a matter of terminology and it should have been obvious from the first half of my sentence what i meant. i think the distinction is pointless. there are many ways of gathering 25p material, some good, some bad, most in-between. if the stream you get consists of 25 progressive frames per second i'm gonna continue calling it 25p. will you get better results with a true progressive ccd? probably. will you get better results shooting interlaced and creating the 25p in post? maybe. believe it or not either way it's not gonna change my mind. :-)

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#7 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 02:19 AM

You said "shoot 25P", that's all, which the camera cannot do. It can create it, though, from 50i. Same goes for the Canon XLH1 or any other interlaced-scan HD camera. I'm not debating the pros and cons of generating progressive-scan from interlaced-scan, just that you should be more precise in describing whether a camera actually "shoots" progressive-scan or not because it's not exactly the same thing (capturing progressive-scan versus converting to progressive-scan.) The distinction is not pointless -- that's why Sony uses the term "25F" afterall.
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#8 Matt Sandstrom

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 01:18 PM

You said "shoot 25P", that's all, which the camera cannot do. It can create it, though, from 50i.


yes, i understand your point, and you're right of course. it's just that i mentioned in the same sentence that the camera doesn't have progressive ccd's so i don't see how anyone could misunderstand, hence i thought your comment became one about terminology only.

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#9 seth christian

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 02:09 AM

what HD cameras actually shoot in true progressive scan?
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 07:05 AM

The JVC GR-HD1 shoots in true progressive scan.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 10:30 AM

Also the Sony HVR-V1U, the Panasonic HVX200, the little Canon H20. I think all the JVC HDV cameras do, but I'm not sure.

Of course, we're not listing the pro HD cameras that do.

Some of these HDV cameras record in 1080i, regardless of whether you shoot progressive scan. So 24P would get a pulldown and be recorded as 60i/1080.
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