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#1 Jim Jannard

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 02:51 PM

"Director Timur Bekmambetov of Bazlevs Film in Moscow, has chosen the RED ONE digital camera for all the digital cinematography used in Universal Pictures', WANTED, staring Angelia Jolie, Morgan Freeman and James McAvoy. Though the body of the movie will be shot in film, there is a substantial digital component to the filming which will be used by Bekmambetov's VFX and production company in Russia. Wanted begins shooting in Prague in April, 2007."

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#2 Chad Stockfleth

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 02:55 PM

Very cool. Can you elaborate as to what sorts of shots?
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#3 Max Jacoby

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 02:57 PM

Congratulations Jim

So are they going to get the first Red produced? Have they done tests already?
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#4 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:10 PM

Some irony there, a camera called RED first being used by Russians. :D
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#5 Daniel Smith

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:39 PM

I'm sure I heard that a production in the U.K was going to be testing it out around about now... from some magazine person.

Unless you mean the first 'big film'.

Edited by Daniel Ashley-Smith, 22 March 2007 - 03:40 PM.

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#6 Dennis Kisilyov

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 03:43 PM

Some irony there, a camera called RED first being used by Russians. :D


ROTFL, Yeah.. they called everything RED. Even Krasno-gorsk means "Red Hills", pretty funny that they are reaching out for RED and not Panasonic/Sony :-). I guess it's still hardwired.
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 06:16 PM

"Director Timur Bekmambetov of Bazlevs Film in Moscow, has chosen the RED ONE digital camera for all the digital cinematography used in Universal Pictures', WANTED, staring Angelia Jolie, Morgan Freeman and James McAvoy. Though the body of the movie will be shot in film, there is a substantial digital component to the filming which will be used by Bekmambetov's VFX and production company in Russia. Wanted begins shooting in Prague in April, 2007."

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So is it going to be Boris or Natasha?
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#8 Gary McClurg

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 06:56 PM

Now what would have been a real revolution would have been to pick someone and show what the camera could really do for indie filmmakers?

Edited by Gary McClurg, 22 March 2007 - 06:57 PM.

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#9 Jim Jannard

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 10:39 PM

I'm sure I heard that a production in the U.K was going to be testing it out around about now... from some magazine person.

Unless you mean the first 'big film'.


Not sure where you got your info... but I have no knowledge of anyone in the UK getting one of the 1st cameras or having access to one.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 04:19 AM

Though the body of the movie will be shot in film, there is a substantial digital component to the filming which will be used by Bekmambetov's VFX and production company in Russia. Wanted begins shooting in Prague in April, 2007."


Whoa! So the first commercial outing of the RED is going to be intercut with film, AND you're not picking a production that would still be a success no matter what they shot it on, unlike some companies I could name :P

I'm impressed.

I think Jannard has me on "ignore" but I thought I'd say it anyway :D
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#11 Alexandre Lucena

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:46 AM

As Karl Marx would say. Cinematographers of the world united with Red.
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#12 TJ Williams

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 10:42 PM

usually the part shot with video ala "24" is with some low end DV HDV type camera to get a "video look" to duplicat a secruity camera a news broadcast etc etc....That distinction may be a problem with a 4K image, I'm also curious as to what type of "red footage" we are going to see?

Edited by TJ Williams, 25 March 2007 - 10:43 PM.

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#13 Jim Jannard

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 10:51 PM

usually the part shot with video ala "24" is with some low end DV HDV type camera to get a "video look" to duplicat a secruity camera a news broadcast etc etc....That distinction may be a problem with a 4K image, I'm also curious as to what type of "red footage" we are going to see?


Not what you just described...

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#14 Mitch Gross

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 11:27 PM

The press release Jim quoted seemed to indicate that the RED camera would chiefly be used for VFX work. Capturing background & foreground plates with a Digital Cinematography camera is an excellent use of a device such as the RED One, since any footage shot on film for this would have to be scanned anyway. By shooting in 4K, it is even possible to do "moves" inside a frame or recompose shots within the resolution. I think a good deal of the early and ongoing production that RED One and other high resolution camera systems will see is in the VFX world and rightly so.
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#15 Jim Jannard

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 11:56 PM

The press release Jim quoted seemed to indicate that the RED camera would chiefly be used for VFX work. Capturing background & foreground plates with a Digital Cinematography camera is an excellent use of a device such as the RED One, since any footage shot on film for this would have to be scanned anyway. By shooting in 4K, it is even possible to do "moves" inside a frame or recompose shots within the resolution. I think a good deal of the early and ongoing production that RED One and other high resolution camera systems will see is in the VFX world and rightly so.


I won't speak for Timur, but other directors and DP's have told us that the image is not the reason why they will use RED as a VFX or second camera in the beginning. The primary reason is that the camera is not fully feature enabled as of today and it will take some time to get studios comfortable with the risk of a new camera. We expect that one success will lead to others (actually, there are several in the works now). We have been told that the major advantages of RED to film are 1. the image quality, 2. the convenience of the workflow, and 3. the cost of production. In that order.

We are pretty happy with the response to our project. We still have a lot of work to do. After all, we started from scratch just 15 months ago.

I hope all, including the respectful skeptics, will take a look at our program at NAB to see why it is a candidate for major motion picture productions, as well as indie projects.

Jim

Edited by Jim Jannard, 25 March 2007 - 11:57 PM.

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#16 Martin Yernazian

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 01:35 AM

Dear Jim

This is going to be the first time that I speak about Red

I feel skepticism is natural when someone is trying to create something out of the blue.
I think the Digital vs film thing is over rated so much, is so annoying, both ends should just shut up and understand that we( the people) shouldn't put barriers to our imagination.
That said, Jim I respect you as an inventor from trying something new and not settle for what we have.

Yes, you probably knew that you where going to have skeptics running around in a world where people don't believe anymore, don't create, don't experiment, don't let their Ideas flow and go crazy.

Keep it up, I use woth formats and I love both, even on these day and age I'm buying my first Super 16 camera to make a feature, but as an upcoming director I will love to "try" ( key word in these industry)
your camera once is out

Best

I won't speak for Timur, but other directors and DP's have told us that the image is not the reason why they will use RED as a VFX or second camera in the beginning. The primary reason is that the camera is not fully feature enabled as of today and it will take some time to get studios comfortable with the risk of a new camera. We expect that one success will lead to others (actually, there are several in the works now). We have been told that the major advantages of RED to film are 1. the image quality, 2. the convenience of the workflow, and 3. the cost of production. In that order.

We are pretty happy with the response to our project. We still have a lot of work to do. After all, we started from scratch just 15 months ago.

I hope all, including the respectful skeptics, will take a look at our program at NAB to see why it is a candidate for major motion picture productions, as well as indie projects.

Jim


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