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#1 Andy_Alderslade

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 07:34 AM

This was the plan back in 2005

BBC article

Current Information about it:

Official Web Page

The director of a DV film I've been shooting asked me about this the other day and its been churning over in my mind.

Back in 2005, it sounded like a good idea - common sense if you like, now in 2007 I'm not really hearing of any benefits, if anything I'm hearing of projectionists comlaints that the systems regularly break down, which is a lot considering the're not used as much as first percieved.

As technology life gets shorter (mabye 5-6 years we can expect), was this a foolish mistake by the British Goverment and UK film council - after all that money could have been used to pay for film outs for digital films, blow-ups for super16mm films and extra prints for 35mm films - that way those films could have been shown on any screen of the 1000s of screens in the UK and also the world.

Let me know your thoughts and particularly your experiences on this matter.

Cheers,
Andy

Edited by Andy_Alderslade, 22 April 2007 - 07:35 AM.

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#2 Alexander Joyce

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 08:53 AM

They'll turn around in a few years and regret that the move was made so early.
It's seems like a sort of a knee-jerk reaction to the industries call for better anti piracy measures and perhaps as a marketing tool to bring people back to the cinemas. "Now projected in 2K! That's 2000!"? or something like that :P
I don't think the final cost of producing prints are that much higher in the end. Producing the keys to allow each cinema to play the digital files is also an additional cost. But then again I don't know too much about it and so this is all just what I've been hearing.
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#3 Max Jacoby

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 09:35 AM

I have been to some of these cinemas and I have yet to see a film digitally projected anywhere in London. All of the inide/art films I have seen over the last 2 years in London were filmprints.
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Posted 22 April 2007 - 09:46 AM

I have been to some of these cinemas and I have yet to see a film digitally projected anywhere in London. All of the inide/art films I have seen over the last 2 years in London were filmprints.


Yea me to, infact as this was to help no/low budget filmmakers its supprising to think that all of the DV originated filim i've seen in the last 10 years have been on filmprints 100%.

This excludes documentries, but i must have seen over thirty DV originated feature films.
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#5 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 10:03 AM

Here are the specs for the Digital Cinema Initiatives.

http://www.dcimovies...m_Spec_v1_1.pdf

There appears to be 3 tiers, with 4k at the top of the range.

Here's the web site: http://www.dcimovies.com/
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Posted 26 April 2007 - 10:43 AM

Here are the specs for the Digital Cinema Initiatives.

http://www.dcimovies...m_Spec_v1_1.pdf

There appears to be 3 tiers, with 4k at the top of the range.

Here's the web site: http://www.dcimovies.com/


Interesting, unfortunatly i've never actually seen one in action.

Has anyone attended a UK digital screen network screening of a low budget film?
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Posted 02 May 2007 - 08:03 AM

I was just reading through these specs and I see that the maximum video bit rate specified by the DCI is 250 Mbps. Is JPEG 2000 an extremely efficient codec? It seems a little low for a 4K image.
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Posted 02 May 2007 - 08:54 AM

I was just reading through these specs and I see that the maximum video bit rate specified by the DCI is 250 Mbps. Is JPEG 2000 an extremely efficient codec? It seems a little low for a 4K image.


From memory, 250mb/s is approx three times higher than that being used in the Infinity when recording JPEC 2000.

JPEC 2000 uses wavelet, the type of compression used by RED and Cineform. RED uses 216 mb/s.
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