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#1 Jarin Blaschke

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:27 PM

Hi all:

Are the Super Baltars only available in the Mitchell (BNCR) mount? Would Panavision have these? - mountable in a PV mount? Also, what speed are they and are they compadible with a modern follow focus? Does anyone rent these in New York, or is it just Alan Gordon in LA?

Thanks!

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#2 Stephen Williams

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:25 AM

Hi all:

Are the Super Baltars only available in the Mitchell (BNCR) mount? Would Panavision have these? - mountable in a PV mount? Also, what speed are they and are they compadible with a modern follow focus? Does anyone rent these in New York, or is it just Alan Gordon in LA?

Thanks!

-Jarin


Hi,

http://www.ducloslenses.com/ have some PL mounted lenses, very rare!

I am sure PV can help you out.

Stephen
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#3 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:12 PM

Hi all:

Are the Super Baltars only available in the Mitchell (BNCR) mount? Would Panavision have these? - mountable in a PV mount? Also, what speed are they and are they compadible with a modern follow focus? Does anyone rent these in New York, or is it just Alan Gordon in LA?


They're actually in a Mitchell S35R (MarkII) mount which is the camera they were originally built for.
The BNCR mounts are usually an adaptor ring permanantly attached to the S35R mount.
Most are T2.3. The 20mm T3 or T2.8.
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#4 Paul Bruening

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 09:29 AM

There is also an issue with the back end of the housing. Flat backs can't go on mirrored cameras. Tapered backs can in some instances. Ken Stone has the 411 on all of the variations. Stephen Williams knows a lot about it, too.
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#5 Stephen Williams

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 01:03 PM

There is also an issue with the back end of the housing. Flat backs can't go on mirrored cameras. Tapered backs can in some instances. Ken Stone has the 411 on all of the variations. Stephen Williams knows a lot about it, too.


Hi,

I filed the back of 50mm once so It did not hit the pelicule in a Fries 35R.

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 02:21 PM

Hi,

I filed the back of 50mm once so It did not hit the pelicule in a Fries 35R.

Stephen


YOU DID WHAT !!!!!!!!

Was that with a bastard file? lol
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#7 Stephen Williams

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 02:37 PM

YOU DID WHAT !!!!!!!!

Was that with a bastard file? lol


Hi Chuck,

I unscrewed the piece that holds the rear element in place, then filed it down as thin as I dared & put the lens back together.

The previous 'User' of this camera did not bother reading Doug Fries warning, that some 50mm Super Balatar lenses required a slight rework! When he focussed the camera to infinity the beamsplitter fractured into a 1000 pieces, that was the first time I had the pleasure of taking a Fries Mitchell to pieces!

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 02:51 PM

Hi Chuck,

I unscrewed the piece that holds the rear element in place, then filed it down as thin as I dared & put the lens back together.

The previous 'User' of this camera did not bother reading Doug Fries warning, that some 50mm Super Balatar lenses required a slight rework! When he focussed the camera to infinity the beamsplitter fractured into a 1000 pieces, that was the first time I had the pleasure of taking a Fries Mitchell to pieces!

Stephen


That sucked, and it's so hard gluing all those little pieces back togeather.
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#9 Stephen Williams

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 03:01 PM

That sucked, and it's so hard gluing all those little pieces back togeather.


Hi Chuck,

The camera has a bellows focusing & is used on a MoCo rig. Some of those bits if glass had a habit of showing up even years later!

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 07:50 PM

Hi all:

Are the Super Baltars only available in the Mitchell (BNCR) mount? Would Panavision have these? - mountable in a PV mount? Also, what speed are they and are they compadible with a modern follow focus? Does anyone rent these in New York, or is it just Alan Gordon in LA?

Thanks!

-Jarin



Hi, I have one with an arri standard mount, 11mm.
cheers
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 01:27 PM

Hi, I have one with an arri standard mount, 11mm.
cheers


Ahhhh....

I you sure about that?
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#12 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 02:02 PM

Ahhhh....

I you sure about that?


That would be one of the three lens meant for the Mitchell 16SSR, newscamera. Had Arri standard mount.
The principal lens would be the 12-120 Angie, with B&L supplying 11, 25 and 50mm Arri mount Super Baltars.
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 02:05 PM

Ahhhh....

I you sure about that?



i sure am, its on the table next to me. stephen
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#14 chuck colburn

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 06:14 PM

My bad..
Got stuck in 35 format land. lol
Didn't know there were Super Baltars made for 16

Edited by chuck colburn, 26 May 2007 - 06:16 PM.

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#15 Bill Totolo

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:16 AM

They're actually in a Mitchell S35R (MarkII) mount which is the camera they were originally built for.
The BNCR mounts are usually an adaptor ring permanantly attached to the S35R mount.
Most are T2.3. The 20mm T3 or T2.8.

Expensive and/or difficult to mate these to PL mounts?
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