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#1 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 01:37 PM

How would this hold up for shooting noir in colour and then changing to B/W in post?
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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:32 PM

How would this hold up for shooting noir in colour and then changing to B/W in post?


It's probably the most common stock choice for doing that, although usually the examples are 35mm ("Good Night and Good Luck" for example.)

It would definitely be finer-grained than 200 ASA Double-X b&w neg.

The main thing is that you will probably end up adding more contrast in post.
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#3 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 06:00 PM

It's probably the most common stock choice for doing that, although usually the examples are 35mm ("Good Night and Good Luck" for example.)

It would definitely be finer-grained than 200 ASA Double-X b&w neg.

The main thing is that you will probably end up adding more contrast in post.


Would it be finer grain than the Plus-X 7231 B/W? I hear thats a pretty decent B/W stock.

Im really trying to decide whether to shoot film noir on colour or B/W. I want a challenge but i also want it to look visually pleasing.
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#4 Matthew Buick

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 06:18 PM

Plus-X negative would probably have been the original choice of most film noir producers. High contrast, fine grain, ridiculously sharp. If I were shooting a film noir that would be my choice. :)
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 06:30 PM

Plus-X negative would probably have been the original choice of most film noir producers. High contrast, fine grain, ridiculously sharp. If I were shooting a film noir that would be my choice. :)


Define a film noir producer.

Also in this modern age, its unrealistic to shoot such a slow stock indoors, it would simply require high amounts light. Its also quite grainy even in 35mm.

No, as recent films such as The Man Who Wasnt There, The Good German, and Good Night and Good luck haven proven,
the modern ''film noir'' producer would not have choosen an old black and white filmstock.


Also, have you actually shot Plus-x? If not, then dont claim ''facts'' you dont actually know.

/Jan
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 06:57 PM

Im shooting film tests on the SR2 a week today.

what should I look for in a stock to shoot noir? High contrast?

What sort of things should i test on both of the stocks?

Ratio tests?
Exposure?
Shadows?

Any advice?

I'm testing with 3 1k fresnels with 7231 and 7218.
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#7 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 07:06 PM

I like the look of Plus-X neg pushed one-stop, which also makes it a little more workable, speed-wise.
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