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#1 Christian Dzubiel

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 03:12 PM

Hello everybody,
this is my first post here.

I hope you´ll enjoy the trailer for this ironic ActionHorrorMovie from Germany called "Rage on stage".
Made for under 10.000 Euros, it is a total labour of love from young filmmakers. (including me, the director of photgraphy of this movie)

Rage on Stage - Trailerpage - Choose "English Sub"

Please feel free to post your honest opinion!

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#2 Raz Birger

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 01:52 AM

Very nice work! The cinematography is great, I liked it very much!
The makeup of the zombies is very good too. I liked the idea, I really didn't think about that the man with the glasses is infected and going to become a zombie, it was surprising.
What is the length of the full movie?

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#3 Robert G Andrews

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 02:12 PM

Well, from me, a mixed review, point by point.

THE GOOD
- production was good, felt like a professional production.
- camera movements were good, quite smooth.
- the special effects were quite good.

THE BAD
- It was a bit too 'American' for a German film, which was disappointing. Felt like a copy of something.
- the soundtrack sound effects were a bit oversized for the moving images and what those moving images actually represented. One was trying a bit too hard I felt.
- the subtitles were imperfect. E.g. capitalization of words in the middle of a sentence.
- the theme did not feel that original.
- Dialogue. Aw c'mon... somebody... give me some good dialogue.
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#4 Kieran Scannell

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 02:32 PM

Hi Christian.

As far as your job is concerned i thought it looked great, you nailed the red look. Beautiful contrast, was it shot on HD?
I saw a lot of '28 days later' in the camera movements, nothing wrong with that "steal from the best" as the saying goes.
You should get a lot of work out of this Christian!

Well done.

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#5 Kieran Scannell

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 02:42 PM

Christian.

Just one more thing, they made this for under ?10,000? That's amazing!

A labour of love indeed!

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#6 Richard Boddington

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 03:04 PM

Under 10K, geez I thought my budgets where low.

Question: what type of distribution opportunities do you have for this in Germany?

Is there a possibility for a theatrical release? DVD distribution?

Are there a lot of indie German language films vying for audiences?

Or are home grown German movies kept out of the market place by Hollywood, just like non Hollywood movies are squashed by Hollywood all over the globe?

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#7 Christian Dzubiel

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 04:46 AM

The running time of the full movie will be something like under 80 Minutes.
It is still in post-production and some reshoots are also needed. The trailer only has a temp score and soundeffects, a talented musician is working on a completly original soundtrack and the final soundmixing will be much more fine-tuned.

The camera we used was the good old Panasonic DVX100. No HD, and probably no big screen for our movie. But we hope for a DVD Distribution and planing a tour through german independent cinemas and festivals.
Speaking about the money, there isn´t a big market for indi-films in germany right now, but young audiences seem to get more interested in movies beyond their multiplex-cinemas in the neighbourhood. We always get great feedback at independent filmfestivals.
In german cinemas, from all movies that come out in a year, about 25% are "home grown". That is quite a good number, but most of this films are very stupid comedies. But some smaller movies (like the ones from Andreas Dresen and Christian Pätzold) are little masterpieces that have a not-so-big but growing audience.

We know very well about the fact that we´re not making shakespeare here: Most of the crew-members trying to fullfill all their childhood dreams in the safe and unharming world of low-budget horrormovie (well, it isn´t always that safe actually). And while we´re having a lot of fun, we´re getting more and more professional.

That "28 Days Later-Look" for me is very much the use of handheld camera work and a high shutter setting - and we indeed have a lot of that in our movie. I shot most of the action scenes with a shutter of 250/1.

@Robert G Andrews: thanks for the hint about the subtitles, we work on that.
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#8 Kieran Scannell

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 12:23 PM

Hi Christian.

After reading your reply i have some questions. You shot this with the DVX 100 i've never used it myself but that must be a
descent piece of kit!

How much of the look was done in camera and how much in post?
What filtration did you use ?( ND, net, soft etc.)
There were some nice crane shots, was that one of those lightweight jibs? ( I used one last year for a low budget promo great results! i'll post it
if your interested)
What was the film cut on?
How did the the high shutter speeds effect your exposures?
What was the ratio light meter and monitor? ( if you know what i mean what do you trust?)
And lastly what was your lighting kit?

I'm only asking because i think you got amazing results for a digital production we all could learn from this i think.

Thanks.

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#9 Christian Dzubiel

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 07:43 AM

Hi Kieran,

no big postproduction on this trailer. It was made very quick and dirty on a mac using Final Cut pro 4. So a bit contrast boosting and some fast blurr-masks, but nothing special.
Most of the look was actually created in camera, using a samll but fine ballpark of light equipmet from ARRI Rental Berlin:
We had three 2K Studiolights, one 4-feet KinoFlo, three 300W, three 800W and three Dedolights 150W. In addition a lot of Grip-stuff, like Magic-Arm and C-Stands. It was all free, because some of our crew members work at this rentalhouse sometimes and ARRI is in germany very well kown to support aspiring filmmakers with little to no budget. So a lot of the 10.000 Euros were dropped for the catering of 13 Crew Memebers over a shooting period of three months.

Except of the built in ND Filter, there was no filtration on the camera-lens at all.
Because of the extremly deep focus of this small videochips, I always shot with the lens wide open to decrease the focus range. This made it sometimes very hard for me to adjust the foucs, because there was no camera-assistent for that. But the resulting images were absolutly worth the pain.
Shooting with f-stops around 1.6 to 2.8 it is actually very helpfull having that high shutter speeds. On the set, we had a very good calibrated sony monitor, which was very carefully watched by the director. So the last word about exposure wasn´t given to a lightmeter or a number on my camera, but to the look on that monitor.
The light style was at the start of the prodcution set to a very high glossy look, doing as much backlighting, kinoflo-actors-face-flattering-soft-lighting and warm colorfilters on the lamps as possible. In addition I sometimes cheated with the whitebalance to give the images that red look.

Thanks for the interest,
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#10 Christian Dzubiel

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 07:55 AM

About the crane: it was indeed a lightweight crane (but a bit too long for jib, I guess). It was a 5 meter crane from abc-products.
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#11 Kieran Scannell

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 01:45 PM

Thanks Christian!

I guess it's just another lesson in what can be achieved with minimum resources and maximum effort, motivation and talent!

I look forward to the DVD release, keep us posted.

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#12 Martin Yernazian

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 11:19 PM

Great work buddy, yes it has American and british elemnts but this is a good piece of work, I will love to see the film to give you good judgment , best
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:20 AM

looks great for dvx100. I love the filmic quality that the camera has to offer as well, but have found that it handles blacks very poorly regarding the final
render to DVD. any similar issues with this?
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:29 AM

To answer your question mr.christian...to be honest, we've found that very same issue with extreme blacks. dv only goes so far with the low spectrum....and it is much more noticeable when bounced to DVD, but the majority of public doesnt seem to notice much.

Would have loved to use film or HD, but this was more of a labor of love so we had to push the project with what we could raise. cheers
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#15 Christian Dzubiel

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 05:04 PM

I never had any problems with the blacks of the dvx. I mostly shoot with the cinegamma-preset mode, because it is a little flat in the contrast but gives me more room for color correction in the postproduction. So it wouldn´t look great just out of camera but it is very useful in the post. And postwork is always a big part for my images when shooting with video.
By the way: what really pisses me of with the dvx is that strange red color hue that gets sometimes visible on bright highlights in the frame.

note: "ros lea" is in no way associated with rage on stage. I was just a little bit confused myself ;)
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#16 ros lea

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 05:11 PM

(note: "ros lea" is in no way associated with rage on stage. I was just a little bit confused myself ;)



sorry Dzubiel, that did sound like I was associated with the piece. I was answering a
question about DVX black response via other communications and was in ref. to your film. but
the 2 Christian (names) threw me off as well when I reread.

no worries! :)
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