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#1 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 09:52 PM

So it turns out i shot some super 16 7218 on the Arri SR2 which is normal 16.

Is this a big problem or not?

:(

I feel so stupid.
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#2 Patrick McGowan

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 10:05 PM

It shouldn't be a problem. The film isn't really super-16 specifically. The film usually used for super-16 shooting is single rather than double perf 16mm. I am guessing that you shot single perf? It should develop normally as the image area for regular 16 still falls between the area on the single perf negative. The super-16 process comes from the gate being widened to accommodate the extra space on the negative that single perf 16mm provides.
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#3 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 10:10 PM

Patrick,

Yes i shot single perf, both the 7218 and the 7231. So it doesnt really matter?

Phew! :D

Thanks very much.
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#4 Jamie McIntyre

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 10:11 PM

Note: The SR2 has a single registration pin and pull down claw right?

When it was rolling i didn't notice any strange sounds.
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#5 Patrick McGowan

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 10:26 PM

I'm not sure about the specs of the sr2, but if you didn't hear any strange noises than that is usually a good sign. :) I shot single perf 7229 in a regular 16 CP-16 not to long ago and there were no problems.
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#6 Richardson Leao

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 03:36 AM

most of the cameras today have a single claw (even the available cp16) are single claw. I think it would be very hard to get 2R films from kodak today.
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#7 John Sprung

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 12:40 PM

Yes, if the camera had had claws and sprocket teeth on both sides, you would have noticed the problem right away. It would have been punching and scratching like crazy. There'd be big dents on the unperforated edge on the takeup side, and lots of emulsion dust all over. Probably would have broken the film and jammed, too.



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#8 Bill DiPietra

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 01:24 PM

most of the cameras today have a single claw (even the available cp16) are single claw. I think it would be very hard to get 2R films from kodak today.


Unless you specify 2R film, Kodak automatically gives you single-perf. 2R seems rather scarce these days...
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#9 Charles MacDonald

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 07:42 PM

Unless you specify 2R film, Kodak automatically gives you single-perf. 2R seems rather scarce these days...


Even specifing it, you probaly have to order several rolls. until very recently (say the last 5 years) their were very few folks using super 16 cameras. One of the reasons that Kodak has changed the default to single perf is to encurage the use of Super 16, as they expect that it will make using film for HDTV production more Viable.

Everyone who is using a single perf camera these days os probaly using single perf stock. Super 16 gives a bigger image for scanning to video, other than that the rest of the process is identical.

About the only gotch is if the rest of your project is done an Super 16, you will probaly have to have the regualr stuff scaned as a separate batch as the telecine will need to be adjusted between the two formats.
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