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#1 XiaoSu Han

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 07:19 PM

Hi guys, I am going to shoot additional scenes for a feature, starting in a few weeks... and we shot a great portion already, but we did not have time for preproduction as i replaced two other "cinematographers" as their ego's clashed. well, that's not the point, the point is:

we did not have time to break up(down? what's the correct phrase for that?) the scenes in single shots at all, we just went on location and talked about the scene and i chose a few shots (which turned out to be 50:50, some were good, some acceptable, but some very bad)

so we are reshooting a few scenes and adding one or two, and wanted to have a really good preproduction and planning every single shot from every single scene we are shooting.

so i just wanted to ask you guys as established professionals with one or another short and feature on your hands, what would you say is the best approach for breaking up a scene into shots?

we used the master shot technique, sometimes using only 2 long and 2 close shots for a scene which is supposed to be 10 minutes on the screen, which gets boring, because the editor has just 4 shots to choose from and is taking up lots of time while shooting because the actors have to act everything from the beginning to the end all the time, including pickups, but they take away the possibility of fluid editing sometimes.

so is there any rule of thumb (besides the ones i got from text books, including 180 degree rule and continuity style) to breaking up a scene into single shots which worked out for you?

please share your experience with me, i am getting a bit desperate, since this project looks quite promising but i lack experience and self confidence in breaking the scenes up into cuttable shots.

thanks to anyone who can provide me some stories about that topic and to everybody else who is contributing in this forum, because i've been lurking here for a few days already and already learned a whole lot.

regards, xiaosu "xax" han

edit: we are going to have a storyboard, but my self confidence isn't high enough so that i trust what we are doing, since it's a first time director too.

Edited by XiaoSu Han, 30 May 2007 - 07:23 PM.

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 07:54 PM

Hi guys, I am going to shoot additional scenes for a feature, starting in a few weeks... and we shot a great portion already, but we did not have time for preproduction as i replaced two other "cinematographers" as their ego's clashed. well, that's not the point, the point is:

we did not have time to break up(down? what's the correct phrase for that?) the scenes in single shots at all, we just went on location and talked about the scene and i chose a few shots (which turned out to be 50:50, some were good, some acceptable, but some very bad)

so we are reshooting a few scenes and adding one or two, and wanted to have a really good preproduction and planning every single shot from every single scene we are shooting.

so i just wanted to ask you guys as established professionals with one or another short and feature on your hands, what would you say is the best approach for breaking up a scene into shots?

we used the master shot technique, sometimes using only 2 long and 2 close shots for a scene which is supposed to be 10 minutes on the screen, which gets boring, because the editor has just 4 shots to choose from and is taking up lots of time while shooting because the actors have to act everything from the beginning to the end all the time, including pickups, but they take away the possibility of fluid editing sometimes.

so is there any rule of thumb (besides the ones i got from text books, including 180 degree rule and continuity style) to breaking up a scene into single shots which worked out for you?

please share your experience with me, i am getting a bit desperate, since this project looks quite promising but i lack experience and self confidence in breaking the scenes up into cuttable shots.

thanks to anyone who can provide me some stories about that topic and to everybody else who is contributing in this forum, because i've been lurking here for a few days already and already learned a whole lot.

regards, xiaosu "xax" han

edit: we are going to have a storyboard, but my self confidence isn't high enough so that i trust what we are doing, since it's a first time director too.


i am sorry but could someone move this topic to the new filmmakers' board please?
sorry i posted it wronglyn :(
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