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#1 William A Chapman Jr

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 08:54 PM

Has any one here bought "Grammar of the Film Language" if you have what was your thoughts?
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#2 Morgan Peline

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 05:44 PM

I tghink it's really good but I've never actually read it properly. why not go to a bookshop and flick through it...
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#3 David Bradley

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 07:21 AM

Its an awesome book, its essentially an in depth guide to blocking and film grammer with diagrams to illustrate the text. I read it about a year ago and now I use it from time to time to check storyboards and shot lists particularly in multiple camera shoots.

The diagrams are grossly sexist, seriously all the women in the illustrations are in bikinis or naked!

worth a read.
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#4 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 12:37 AM

The diagrams are grossly sexist, seriously all the women in the illustrations are in bikinis or naked!


OK......I'm looking for a downside here? :unsure:
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#5 Ram Shani

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 02:22 AM

i read this book and its good

but if you want to learn about the subject you beater buy the "Hollywood camera work" DVD

its amazing series teach you the same thing but in 3d animation so you can see the moves and hows it cut

great thing
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#6 Vincent De Paula

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:13 AM

Got this book from Samuel French Bookshop in Sunset Boulevard in L.A.
and I highly recommend it. I don't think they have updated it since.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 05:26 PM

Actually, Film as a language has been refuted as a polemical associative reasoning. Film is not a language because language is made up of arbitrary signs (letters don't have an immediate correspondence to pictures), language has morphemes at its base-filmic images does not, and it is also impossible for a film to be grammatically incorrect. The rule of one-hundred-and-eighty-degrees is merely a suggestion. Films like Stagecoach even ignore this rule without disrupting the audience. This is not to say that film is not LIKE a language. This is just saying that you might end up spending quite a bit of time learning hifalutin (haha) words, like metonymy, synechdoche, trope, and various others to explain how a shot or scene makes meaning. This is all gibberish of course, without the experiential knowledge of the world which you already have.
I would highly recommend on the other hand, reading genre convention criticism instead. Or if Camerwork is what you are after, look for a book on camera work, and not "grammar."
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#8 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 06:29 PM

"Cinemalone", you need to go to My Controls and change your Display Name to a real first and last name, as per the forum rules listed when you registered. Thanks!
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 07:22 PM

I'm a newbie here myself, but have to say, I have a copy of Grammar of Film Language, and I enjoy it. I wouldn't say it's a major reference tool, but it's useful to kick-start your brain into thinking three-dimensionally when it comes to blocking.

I have to make the writer/director switch a lot, so books like that can help get you back into the mindset of blocking versus scripting.

Have a great day!
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#10 Morgan Peline

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Posted 10 December 2007 - 09:02 PM

look for a book on camera work, and not "grammar."


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Have you actually read this book?

It isn't at all a book on 'film critique'. It actually is a book on how to use the camera...it has many illustrations and diagramns showing how to block different types of scene. It is quite practical and not 'theoretical' at all.

http://www.amazon.co...g...8376&sr=8-1
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#11 Morgan Peline

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Posted 10 December 2007 - 09:04 PM

i read this book and its good

but if you want to learn about the subject you beater buy the "Hollywood camera work" DVD

its amazing series teach you the same thing but in 3d animation so you can see the moves and hows it cut

great thing


Ram,

Did you buy this?

Is it worth it? It seems quite expensive but I'd love to get this...if I were a richman...
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