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#1 Ernest Cahl

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 12:48 PM

hello everyone ,
i bought a Cameflex CM1 .
do you know if i can fix on it the konvas motor ?
thank you

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#2 Olex Kalynychenko

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 01:23 PM

hello everyone ,
i bought a Cameflex CM1 .
do you know if i can fix on it the konvas motor ?
thank you

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What Konvas motor you mean ?
Konvas camera can have many types of motors.
I think, you mean of crystal sync speed 17EP-16 APK motor.
If you send me pictire of CM camera from motor mount, we can think.
17 EP-16 APK motor have output shaft with two-pin plug.
The one turn of output shaft move of film on one step.
But, the electronic of motor can be adjust for other speeds too.
17EP-16 APK motor included DC motor 6000 rev at 12 v, 50W with peak power 210 W.
The motor have reducer 2:1 too.
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#3 Henri Mathieu

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 04:49 PM

I have a Cameflex CM3 16/35 and a Konvas.
The motor mount are very different and it suppose to modify the Konvas motor for running on reverse mode.
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#4 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 11:53 PM

Hey, I just had an insane, wild, CRAZY idea, but it just might be crazy enough to work!! Rather than spending tons of money and a lot of time trying to modify the Konvas motor to work with a camera it wasn't designed for, what it....and JUST hear me out on this...WHAT IF you were to SELL the Konvas motor and then use THAT money to BUY a Cameflex motor that will fit right onto your camera WITHOUT going though all the trouble of having to force fit a Konvas onto it. I know what you're going to say, "HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND, Have you completely gone off the deep END!!!" but I really think this could work! :rolleyes:

Edited by James Steven Beverly, 16 June 2007 - 11:56 PM.

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#5 Ernest Cahl

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 02:58 AM

Hey, I just had an insane, wild, CRAZY idea, but it just might be crazy enough to work!! Rather than spending tons of money and a lot of time trying to modify the Konvas motor to work with a camera it wasn't designed for, what it....and JUST hear me out on this...WHAT IF you were to SELL the Konvas motor and then use THAT money to BUY a Cameflex motor that will fit right onto your camera WITHOUT going though all the trouble of having to force fit a Konvas onto it. I know what you're going to say, "HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND, Have you completely gone off the deep END!!!" but I really think this could work! :rolleyes:


i totaly agree . i like your "CRAZY" idea :) , but the probleme is that i couldn t find ant CM3 motor !

Edited by Ernest Cahl, 17 June 2007 - 03:00 AM.

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#6 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 03:57 AM

Be patient and keep looking my friend, someone, somewhere has got one they want to get rid of OR you could sell the Cameflex and buy a Konvas 2m. These are killer little cameras, tough as Hell and you can pick one up for anywhere from 1500 to 2500 bucks for a complete package with lenses, motor, everything and the 2m s are all over Ebay constantly. They're easy to maintain, parts are availible, and they are VERY reliable. It's something to consider. B)
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#7 Ernest Cahl

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 04:39 AM

Be patient and keep looking my friend, someone, somewhere has got one they want to get rid of OR you could sell the Cameflex and buy a Konvas 2m. These are killer little cameras, tough as Hell and you can pick one up for anywhere from 1500 to 2500 bucks for a complete package with lenses, motor, everything and the 2m s are all over Ebay constantly. They're easy to maintain, parts are availible, and they are VERY reliable. It's something to consider. B)


at first i wanted to buy a Konvas 2m than i said to myself ; a Konvas is a nice camera , but it s a "remake" of the Camflex without a variable shutter angle , beside the Camflex is 16 and 35 .i got a great kit from a friend ; fully revised CM1 , Nikon mount and old Arri mount +6 magz + 1 motor 25i/s + 1 single shot motor + some Nikon lenses
now i have all of this , i am trying to find a manivel and a variable motor , mattebox and maybe a blimp :rolleyes: .
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#8 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 12:51 AM

Sounds like a nice package. Looks like you're stuck with being patient then. If you have a 25 FPS motor at least you can still shoot with it. Matteboxes you should be able to find on Ebay fairly easily, a blimp, I think you're screwed, THAT'S gonna be REAL hard to find. I have NO IDEA what a manivel is. I actually have never heard that term, could you enlighten me? B)
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#9 Ernest Cahl

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 11:40 AM

Sounds like a nice package. Looks like you're stuck with being patient then. If you have a 25 FPS motor at least you can still shoot with it. Matteboxes you should be able to find on Ebay fairly easily, a blimp, I think you're screwed, THAT'S gonna be REAL hard to find. I have NO IDEA what a manivel is. I actually have never heard that term, could you enlighten me? B)


yeah is a nice kit , also i can use the nikons on my bolex with the adaptor :) , the blimp is not urgent for now ,
we were making the test today , tomorow will see the negatif under the microscope .
the motor is runing at 24,09 ( should be 25 i/s ) all magz are nice .
manivel ; i mean hand cranck ( ?)

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#10 John Sprung

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 02:18 PM

the motor is runing at 24,09 ( should be 25 i/s )

In that case, it would be a good idea to take your existing motor to a specialist repair shop. Have you looked at the brushes and commutator? Wait too long on brushes, and the commutator can be damaged beyond repair.



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#11 Ernest Cahl

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 02:34 PM

In that case, it would be a good idea to take your existing motor to a specialist repair shop. Have you looked at the brushes and commutator? Wait too long on brushes, and the commutator can be damaged beyond repair.
-- J.S.



hello ,
thanks for the advice , i dont want to loose my motor , but anyway i dont need crystl sync for the moment .the motor is realy old , maybe i should keep it and consider it as a 24i/s and buy a variable speed (with crystl syn if that exists )

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