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#1 peter moore

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 09:14 AM

Hi.
I am new here and this my first post. Can anyone give me the name of a lab to do
an optical blow-up from ultra 16 to 35mm, and or a facility to do a DI for me?

thanking you all for a great site...

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#2 Stephen Williams

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 04:58 PM

Hi.
I am new here and this my first post. Can anyone give me the name of a lab to do
an optical blow-up from ultra 16 to 35mm, and or a facility to do a DI for me?

thanking you all for a great site...

Peter.


Hi Peter,

There aren't any, thats the problem.

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#3 Bernie O'Doherty

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 07:42 PM

We're working with a Va lab and are finalizing machine work on a transfer w/scanning to enable Ultra 16 DI. Don't want to push too hard on the lab, but they're getting clost to liftoff.
I'll happily relate any good news as soon as it happens. I have a line of cameras waiting with nervous excitement.
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 08:32 AM

We're working with a Va lab and are finalizing machine work on a transfer w/scanning to enable Ultra 16 DI. Don't want to push too hard on the lab, but they're getting clost to liftoff.
I'll happily relate any good news as soon as it happens. I have a line of cameras waiting with nervous excitement.
Bernie


That is good news, Bernie. If only a few facilities around the country started dealing with Ultra 16, we'd probably see a lot of non-Super-16 capable cameras (Beaulieus, Scoopics, etc.) being modified to Ultra 16.
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#5 AdamBray

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 09:52 PM

Ultra 16?

*cricket sounds*

*cricket sounds*

*cricket sounds*
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#6 Bernie O'Doherty

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 05:33 AM

* ssssst* Deet spray
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#7 Nick Mulder

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 05:46 AM

gawd, what you spraying that crap round here for !

I was enjoying the crickets !

So um, yeh anyway seriously now, now that we might have a transfer facility is it possible to convert a RED to ultra16 also?
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#8 Bernie O'Doherty

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 05:49 AM

If it can prove 2/15ths Russian blood.
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Posted 24 June 2007 - 06:37 AM

We're working with a Va lab and are finalizing machine work on a transfer w/scanning to enable Ultra 16 DI. Don't want to push too hard on the lab, but they're getting clost to liftoff.
I'll happily relate any good news as soon as it happens. I have a line of cameras waiting with nervous excitement.
Bernie

Hi Bernie
Can you tell me what lenses will be needed for this Ultra 16 and will it cover camera's like Beaulieu R16 which they say can not be converted to S16 due to mirror shutter.


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#10 Bernie O'Doherty

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 09:50 PM

[It will cover the full range of "normal" 16mm lenses. You're not recentering the lens axis by the 0ne mm required in S16. The gg will need to be remarked a little wider on both sides.

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#11 Don Brown

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 03:47 AM

[It will cover the full range of "normal" 16mm lenses. You're not recentering the lens axis by the 0ne mm required in S16. The gg will need to be remarked a little wider on both sides.

Bernie


Hi Bernie
Sounds interesting keep us all posted on future developments, hope your move is smooth.


Regards


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#12 Andy_Alderslade

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 04:03 AM

Why am I sensing the bi-annual Ultra16 fight is about to start, again.

Edited by Andy_Alderslade, 25 June 2007 - 04:04 AM.

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#13 Bernie O'Doherty

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 05:10 AM

Because this time there's an Irishman in the ring...
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#14 Mitch Gross

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 06:31 AM

I refused to get sucked into it again. I don't see much value in it but if others do then go ahead.
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#15 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 12:24 PM

I refused to get sucked into it again. I don't see much value in it but if others do then go ahead.



Here is the opinion from another irish film lab guy <_<


We had been hearing about Ultra16 like everyone else but I have not had more than 2 or 3 people inquire about the process in the last 2 years, and we run allot of 16mm it's really our bread and butter.

Processing Ultra16 is not a problem and bench handling is no problem either if you use Super16 handling techniques, i.e. tight winds, etc.


I have a STD 16mm gate for our rank suites (BTW Suite #2 is getting a DaVinci888 right now) and I have a plan to machine the skid plate to Ultra16 dimensions so we can safely run it on our Telecines and extract keycode, etc. with our Aaton Keylink systems.


I am looking at several scanners and I am sure the one I like will be able to scan Ultra16 to 2K.

To me it would not be so much work to support and I would like to support it like I would like to support 2perf 35mm it's just a matter of when some would show up. I will re visit the modification to one of our gates as it is a fairly simple mod for our CnC machine shop to do.

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#16 Martin Yernazian

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 01:04 PM

My point in Ultra 16 is to ask those people that started the whole trend and rummors = Arri
I have seen their new lenses and I was really exited for it , but , why start and invest with something like that if you don't have a complete workflow

I might be wrong about this, please feel free to correct me


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#17 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 01:13 PM

My point in Ultra 16 is to ask those people that started the whole trend and rummors = Arri
I have seen their new lenses and I was really exited for it , but , why start and invest with something like that if you don't have a complete workflow

I might be wrong about this, please feel free to correct me
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I do not see why Arri would care about Ultra16 when they are selling the super nice 416 I would think that they would not consider it to be a "proper" or professional format and I can not see them supporting it with the Arriscan.

I think Ultra16 is a possible way for low budget film people to sort of breathe new life into STD16 cameras and that is about it.

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#18 Tim Carroll

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 01:17 PM

My point in Ultra 16 is to ask those people that started the whole trend and rummors = Arri
I have seen their new lenses and I was really exited for it , but , why start and invest with something like that if you don't have a complete workflow

I might be wrong about this, please feel free to correct me
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Martin,

Sometimes your English gets in the way. :-) Big smile my friend.

ARRI's Ultra 16 set of prime lenses has absolutely nothing to to with the Ultra 16 the folks are talking about on this thread. (I did give some of the folks I know at ARRI a hard time when they first introduced the lenses though, because of the name they chose. I could not believe how many of them had not heard of Ultra 16 (the one this thread is referring to)).

The Ultra 16 this thread is referring to is taking a regular 16mm camera and filing out both sides of the gate to get a wider ratio picture. Something I think is basically insane, but hey, if you own the camera you can do anything you want to it. Folks keep trying to say that it is as good as Super 16, or that it can make older cameras better able to shoot 16x9. I say hogwash. Use Kodak 7217, (Vision2 200T), frame for 16x9 on the ground glass, and shoot your movie. It ain't rocket science. And if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

That's my 2 cents worth. Let the flaming begin.

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#19 Martin Yernazian

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 02:50 PM

Hahaha, I know we where talking about that Ultra 16 Tim, Thanks anyway, For some reason the closeness of the name with Arri new lenses it really confuse me

Thanks for the clarifications, and Tim I will postiong some pictures soon about my new Baby



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#20 Tim Carroll

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 03:02 PM

Tim I will postiong some pictures soon about my new Baby


Great, can't wait to see it.

-Tim
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