Super 16 to HDcam?
Posted 14 July 2007 - 07:32 PM
Posted 14 July 2007 - 08:17 PM
Edit that and produce an EDL (edit decision list)
Then go back to the lab and re-transfer selected footage from ALL of your footage in HDCAM based on the EDL.
HDCAM is a tape format.
You're looking at $120 or less for 400' (11 min at 24fps) of 16mm filmstock.
You can get as low as $0.12/ft for processing and $0.12/ft for DVCAM dallies, but it might be up to $0.20/ft for either. depends on the lab and the pull you have there.
So, $200 and change for 11 minutes of film. With a 10:1 shooting ratio you'll get a minute of usable footage out of that. Multiply $200 x 50 (for a 50 minute film) is around $10,000... not including tape stock...
Then when you're edit is done from the dalies, you setup a color correction session at between 350-500/hr (you're not being charged by foot now, but by the time involved in transferring and finishing your film) where you'll re-transfer the selects from your EDL. You can get a supervised session where you sit in and tell the guy conforming and color correcting your film what to do or pay less for an unsupervised transfer where you tell the guy what you want and hope he understands you. The number of hours to work on your film? It really depends on too many things...
I just did a D.I. at Goldcrest (John Dowdell is simply the best!) for a 20 minute short I directed and we did all of the broad color correction in a 4 hour period (and it required very little work, relatively, as my DP was spot on with exposure and I had no odd effects) with a bit of dust busting and titles the next morning. John is pretty fast and the tools he's using (ARRI Scanner, Quantel IQ) allow him to work fast so if you go with a lower end post house with older tools you may have to spend more time (for presumably less per hour) finishing it.
It's been different every time in my experience... so prices vary based on this or that colorist or this or that lab or how much correction you need etc...
Dailies on DVCAM
Edit Dailies and spit out EDL
Re-transfer selects (based on the EDL)
Color correct and conform.
That is a typical post path.
Posted 15 July 2007 - 03:14 PM
Posted 16 July 2007 - 06:22 AM
How does one go about making an EDL?
You will have to ensure that your editing software is able to output an Edit Decision List, all professional programs should, certainly Final Cut Pro and professional versions of Avid. (Amateur or semi-proffesional software like Final Cut Express does not.)
You will have consult each software individually to find out the process of outputting an EDL, ideally you should try to test this before editing begins.
Posted 16 July 2007 - 10:18 AM
In that scenario, you
- shoot s16
- scan the film to 2k or 1080p
- now you can edit / grade in full quality on the editing system. *1
- output the film as imagesequence (dpx etc) or as videostream (quicktime etc) or as a tape (HDCAM) or as distribution media (Blueray, HD-DVD, DVD etc). *2
- for film-out of your short, you will have to record that with a celco, arrilaser etc. *3
*1 several NLE applications allow off/online with digital media. Using inexpensive programs as Adobe Premiere or Final Cut on inexpensive computers would not allow for full uncompressed 2k or 1080p without additional hardware. so, these softwares convert the master 2k/1080p to a datareduced HD format for editing. For the final master, they then compute in not realtime using the original images. For Adobe, you should look into "Aspect Ratio HD", for Final Cut into "pro res".
*2 depending for your purpose, HDCAM or filmout might be the better way. Most mayor festivals and broadcasters use hdcam as one delivery format those days.
*3 be aware that recording filmout for a short will cost you $$$$ and you probably will have a 35mm blowup master.
Posted 16 July 2007 - 04:47 PM
Posted 16 July 2007 - 04:52 PM