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#1 andres victorero

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Posted 17 July 2007 - 02:20 PM

Hi as I posted in this forum I´m looking for a decent (but not very expensive) prime lenses to convert to PL mount.

I find a super Baltar lens that it seems a little old.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...ADME:B:AAQ:US:1

Someone can tell me if this lenses are better than OKS or the old Schneider and Cooke?

thanks
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#2 Robert Hughes

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 12:11 PM

The Super Baltar was a high end lens back in 1960, but after almost 50 years it probably shows age and wear artifacts, and may not cut very well with images from modern lenses. I have a 25mm Super Baltar that has yellow glass, probably from radioactive metals used in glass manufacture. The good thing is I don't need an 85 filter for outdoor shooting, the bad thing is my film gets exposed whether I shoot or not :lol:
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#3 Stephen Williams

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 02:02 PM

Hi,

There beautiful classic lenses. Hard to convert but it's been done. There was a thread on CML recently.

Stephen
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Posted 26 January 2008 - 02:59 PM

I find a super Baltar lens that it seems a little old.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...ADME:B:AAQ:US:1

Someone can tell me if this lenses are better than OKS or the old Schneider and Cooke?

I have utilized the super baltars sets for Pani as wel as Arri, I find there performance outstanding for the applications i use them for. I am presently collecting and converting a set of my own to PL mounts because i am so impressed.
radioactive? good one, maybe you live to close to springfield?
good luck
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#5 Stephen Williams

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 03:03 PM

radioactive? good one, maybe you live to close to springfield?
good luck


Hi,

Some are radioactive, I recently tested a set one was 100 x the background radiation at the front element, the rest were not radioactive at all.

Stephen
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#6 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 08:21 PM

Doesn't anyone make a Mitchell to PL adapter rather than going to all the trouble of rehousing them? That would make more sense with older lenses at what it would cost to rehouse them anyway in MY opinion B)

Edited by James Steven Beverly, 26 January 2008 - 08:21 PM.

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#7 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 08:34 PM

You could Email this guy:

les@lesbosher.co.uk

Here's his site:

http://www.lesbosher.co.uk/default.htm

Maybe he or someone like him could help you. B)
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#8 Henri Titchen

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 08:52 PM

Some are radioactive, I recently tested a set one was 100 x the background radiation at the front element, the rest were not radioactive at all.

Stephen


Here is an interesting link that details why some lenses are radioactive. The Thorium content of some lenses is the cause.

http://www.orau.org/.../cameralens.htm

Henry.
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#9 Tony Brown

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 02:55 PM

The Super Baltar was a high end lens back in 1960, but after almost 50 years it probably shows age and wear artifacts, and may not cut very well with images from modern lenses.


Probably the best reason to use them. I'm about to defect to Series 3 Cookes...... enough of exaggerated sharpness and contrast....
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#10 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 01:24 PM

Probably the best reason to use them. I'm about to defect to Series 3 Cookes...... enough of exaggerated sharpness and contrast....


The only Series III are 18mm and 25mm, all the others are Series II.
There are Series II 18mm and 25mm too.

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#11 Max Jacoby

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 03:12 PM

Probably the best reason to use them. I'm about to defect to Series 3 Cookes...... enough of exaggerated sharpness and contrast....

I bet when these Cooke S2/s3s were released back in the day there were some dops grumbling about the exaggerated sharpness of these new lenses ;)
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#12 Tony Brown

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 07:00 AM

I bet when these Cooke S2/s3s were released back in the day there were some dops grumbling about the exaggerated sharpness of these new lenses ;)



Probably me.... :rolleyes:
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#13 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:28 PM

I bet when these Cooke S2/s3s were released back in the day there were some dops grumbling about the exaggerated sharpness of these new lenses ;)


You win, Max.
David Watkin says that here:

http://www.moviemail...p;type=Articles

He compares RossXpress lenses with"the harder looking Cooke Speed Panchros".
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#14 dino wiand

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 08:52 AM

To me the Super Baltar is the best lens ever made. I hear the Kowa's are an exact copy. I also love the original Baltars too.

Buffalo 66 and Brown Bunny were recent films shot with Super Baltars. about 50% of all films upto the early 70s used Super Baltars and Baltars. All Fox films until the mid 60s and I think RKO too.

I have not seen a lens come close to the Super Baltar though. (Cooke Speeds and Panavision Panatars a good second choice though)



Hi as I posted in this forum I´m looking for a decent (but not very expensive) prime lenses to convert to PL mount.

I find a super Baltar lens that it seems a little old.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...ADME:B:AAQ:US:1

Someone can tell me if this lenses are better than OKS or the old Schneider and Cooke?

thanks


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